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POLL: Will you blame Lebron if he leaves this summer?

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Will you blame Lebron if he leaves this summer?

  • YES I will blame him just as much as the first time. He has won championships, he has no excuse now

    Votes: 12 6.1%
  • SOME I understand wanting to beat GS, but he should stay and try to do it in Cleveland

    Votes: 60 30.5%
  • NO We just do not have a roster that can beat GS and it is unfair to ask him to stay here and lose

    Votes: 125 63.5%

  • Total voters
    197
The rest of the league after four years has got to be sick of GS. There should be players beating Cavs door down. Is every player willing to except that they have next to no chance to win a championship.

Adding Durant to a 73 win team is enough to hate the NBA. Let's not even talk about dirty refs. If LeBron leave's I won't invest as much time with NBA and wish him well.
 
No hard feelings as long as he keep it classy and no circus like "The Decision"... he deserves to do whatever he wants, just don't be a douche in doing so....
 
Not anymore. He’s made amends, brought a title and been loyal and will be to NE Ohio.
He paid his debt. If he stays, that’s awesome. If not, it’s because Dan and Koby can’t get the job done.
 
If he wants to leave, no problem. However, I answered “Some” in the poll because when he came back he joked he couldn’t make another move but then signed these 1 to 2 year deals making the management do what they have done. So, I feel he has some blame but just like I felt the first time, it his choice and I’m a Cavs fan with or without him.
 
Of course not. He did what he came back to do: he laid The Cleveland Curse low, for a good 4 months!

Then again, he basically killed any hope of a roster upgrade by making sure JR and TT got overpaid, and he probably could have worked hard to convince Kyrie to stay...

But... we’ll always have 2016 (which seems very far away now, especially since this will be the last deep playoff run by a Cleveland team for many years)...
 
Agree completely with this, have posted similar a couple of times. It's really unbelievable that Lebron dragged the worst supporting cast ever to the Finals in 2007, then 11 years later, after Gilbert has been given a complete do-over with the slate wiped clean and numerous draft picks to rebuild with, Lebron is AGAIN saddled with dragging the worst supporting cast ever to the Finals.

And the team would've probably won the ring in 2015 without the injuries and another in 2017 if not for Durant's unprecedented maneuver. The Cavs could've managed their assets better for sure, but they surrounded him with a lot of effective players the last 3-4 years (coaches, not so much). He hasn't been on an island. I don't know if any team in the history of the league would've beaten GS last year (or this year, when they're focused).
 
I picked some, its his right to leave, but that coming home feel good story loses some of its luster. Plus every time he has left his team, its when adversity strikes, its a bad look. Its why I think he stays though.
 
Of course not. He did what he came back to do: he laid The Cleveland Curse low, for a good 4 months!

Then again, he basically killed any hope of a roster upgrade by making sure JR and TT got overpaid, and he probably could have worked hard to convince Kyrie to stay...

But... we’ll always have 2016 (which seems very far away now, especially since this will be the last deep playoff run by a Cleveland team for many years)...

"A Cleveland team?" Indians finally are getting it together and on pace to match the last 2 years. The Brownies...well...76er-style trust the process, I guess?
 
"A Cleveland team?" Indians finally are getting it together and on pace to match the last 2 years. The Brownies...well...76er-style trust the process, I guess?

The Indians’ championship window is also closed. The baseball gods don’t give you more than 2 chokes, unfortunately...
 
Truthfully, it will take a bit of a long game approach. My eyes are on Kawhi

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The cap in 19-20 is projected to be 108 million. So we would have 4 million in space.

George Hill only has a 1 million dollar guarantee for 2019-20. See ya George. Up to 21 million in space.

JR is only guaranteed 3.87 million for 2019-20. Sad to see him go, but see ya Swish. Now we have 33 million in space.

Tristan will be an expiring at this point and I think he has played well enough this postseason that he won't have negative value. If we trade him that puts us at around 51 million in cap space.

Truthfully Clarkson kind of fucks this up. Wish we never traded for him. Hope cap space is at enough of a premium that expirings matter enough that we can move him. Assuming we can then we are up to around 65 million in space.

The salary of the 8th pick in the draft in his second year should be around 4-5 million.

So we are basically looking at 60 million for Kawhi and LeBron. It'll involve a bit of a cut, but so would going to Houston for LeBron.

It also involves gutting the team (Hood and Nance are not re-signed in this scenario), but a core of Love/LBJ/Kawhi would fucking carve through any opposition as long as LeBron is even 90% of his current form

It also involves one more "growth" year. It requires a little bit of patience. But teaming Kawhi and LeBron up I think would pay off handsomely in the future. I just can't see anyone stopping those 2. For my money they're the 2 best players in the NBA... put a fucking pine cone and a traffic light at the 1 and the 2 and it would barely matter with that LBJ/Kawhi combo

Lebron is not gonna wait even one more year. Fathertime is near and he knows it.
 
Lebron is not gonna wait even one more year. Fathertime is near and he knows it.

I agree with this as well. Playing the long game requires some kind of faith in your front office. The moment this guy committed for 2 years, in the 2nd year Griffin was gone in the middle of trade talks and Kyrie was gone to the Celtics. Whether you believe Griffin was a bad GM or that Kyrie being gone was partly LeBron's fault is one thing...but deep down going into this year/Finals and seeing how well he has played overall it must have felt like a wasted year of one of the last years of his prime.
 
I just hope he doesn't join Golden Shower.
 
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I just hope he doesn't join Golden Shower.

Actually I'm half pulling for that to happen.

Literally would make the league a laughing stock to the rest of the world.

At this point if that happens? it deserves to die.
 
Yes I will blame him. It will be completely irrational but he’s the only consistent winner in town. I don’t want to rely on the Indians.
 
So by browsing over the forum it appears LeBron will stay if:

The front office can manage to deal the 8th pick (whomever it is), JR, TT, and Korver/Clarkson for Kemba and one of Batum/Dwight. Preferably Dwight since he only has 1 year left. Then somehow manage to sell the Spurs or Thunder that a package with Love, Cedi, Zizic, and future picks is enough for Kawhi or Paul George. Then somehow make over our bench with league minimums.

Plausible? Maybe. Likely? Doubt it.
 

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