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Potential 2019 Head coaches for the Browns

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I hate McCarthy, I think hes such an average coach and an underwhelming hire.

However, hes certainly better than Hue and will likely attract very good coaches. I dont think he ruins the window, just makes it to where a lot of things need to go correctly
 
give me a break...the Browns have a few interviews to do before they settle on McCarthy...this guy is just throwing stuff out there
 
Thought this was an interesting take on McCarthy from a Packers fan on reddit:

Rodgers wants to play backyard football. Lots of scramble drills. Lots of extended plays. Lots of operating outside the pocket. To do this you usually run spread iso routes to allow receivers more opportunities to break free in a scramble drill. Timing routes don't work in this system because they rely on the QB hitting the receiver at a specific time after he's open but before he gets covered again. This works when you have lots of vet receivers who are on the same page as the QB and who know when and how to break out of their planned routes, when the QB has the ability to extend plays, and when the o-line can block. So when there was Jordy, Cobb, Driver, Jennings, Jones, etc, this worked. Sadly there was just Cobb, who isn't the player he once was, and Adams. The o-line dropped off a cliff. And Rodgers lost the ability to extend plays as well.

So MM redesigned the offense. More short yardage passes designed to allow for YAC. New formations designed to scheme receivers open. Rub routes. New personnel groupings. Different route combos. Very different offense designed to get back to the 2010-esque west coast offense style.

Rodgers obviously didn't like this, despite it being the big reason why there was the comeback versus the Bears, and that it ideally kept him from being hit as much. He'd refuse to checkdown. He'd keep dancing around the pocket to buy time but he'd end up getting sacked or throwing it away. He couldn't hit open receivers. He'd stare down receivers. He'd check out of run plays.

Yet MM bore the brunt of the criticism. But here he was, redesigning his offense to cater to the strengths and weaknesses of the team. He was innovating. But because the QB didn't like that, and hindered that innovation, it didn't work. Yet MM got fired, and Rodgers continued to suck.
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Worth a discussion, at any rate. I read an article somewhere around the time McCarthy was fired that made a lot of the same points.
 
I don't want McCarthy. But I'd take him over McDaniels and Gase. Two guys that bombed at their gigs, and who I'd honestly think could derail things here.

And I don't think he deserves all the criticism of not winning with Rodgers.

One, Rodgers is a serious diva that plays outside of the scheme. His style of play has its pros and cons.

He's gotten too big of an ego, and frankly just isn't as good anymore. The guy literally goes rogue on his coach, and that should be blamed on McCarthy?

No, it should be blamed on a big ego QB that thinks he's above the team.

Two, Ted Thompson has been truly horrendous the last 5 or so years. They aren't active in free agency and not winning their draft classes.

On a really talented team. If Dorsey continues to nail picks, I don't see McCarthy derailing things.

I don't think he excels things, but maybe doesn't derail them.

Not my first choice at all.

I rather hire Arians 100% if he wants the job.
 
Well, he did play at Baker University. How nice of his alma mater to go into the future, then back to the past, to name his college after Baker, after he goes on to win 8 fuckin' Super Bowls with Baker "long schlong" Mayfield!

Okay, genius hire! Fuck I'm drunk.
 
McCarthy wouldn't make me angry, it would just be more of a shrug from me. I don't think he would be hindrance if...(and this is a big "if") they kept Kitchens on staff to continue to work with Mayfield. The pair clearly have a good amount of chemistry going on and the investment is worth pouring more money into.

It's a lateral move to me currently.

McDaniels scares the shit out of me.

Arians is the one guy I want, but the lack of noise around his name and us really sucks. I don't think he's it.

Which is a mistake.
 
If you’re in the keep Kitchens train, you can’t be pro McCarthy. No way Kitchens stays around without play calling duties.
 
So perhaps we step back from the panic button until we see something of substance.
 
I am firmly against hiring McCarthy, but that would pretty much confirm that Dorsey is, in fact, in charge of this search.

Which I guess would be somewhat comforting?
 
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