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Preseason WK 1: Browns vs Saints

Discussion in 'Browns Game Day' started by Hurl Bruce, Aug 10, 2017.

  1. The Wizard of Moz

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    This is a BRAWNS TAWN
     
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    Wasn't able to watch the game so I only saw the highlights, but I thought his 3rd and 24 completion for 22 yards was his best throw of the game. He looked the defender off with his check down guy, then decisively fired the ball (absolute rocket of a throw) right into the area he vacated. Not surprised by the reports that he held it too long at times, but if Hue can coach more of plays like that out of him, we could have something really special on our hands.

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  3. The Oi

    The Oi Ahhhh chachachacha

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    His arm and movement in the pocket were a combination we've never seen. So there's that.
     
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    He kind of short arms the ball.
     
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    I liked the step-up to throw at 1:24/6. Wasn't the best result but the ability to hang in there is encouraging. Not annointing him or anything but that was good to see as a trait. Let's see what week 2 brings.
     
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    I believe he is our starter once he figures out how to process and dictate the action against an NFL defense. So while it's fair to say his line is third stringers and he had two drops from his receivers, it really is all about he handles starting NFL defensive talent and most importantly a defensive coordinator who is scheming to take advantage of his lack of experience.

    Here's what I saw from limited views last night - thanks for the link Huber:

    1. Very at ease against the three and four man rush, scans the field and has clean footwork.

    2. Mixed results once the defense sent one or two more rushers. He sailed a throw and slung an uncatchable ball or two when hurried. But other times he slid in the pocket and reset his feet against the blitz, kept his eyes down the field rather than thinking run.

    3. His best throw was the touchdown because they sent six, he made the quick read and delivered a strike. If he does that consistently against the blitz, he's ready.

    4. So what didn't we see? I saw very straightforward back pedals without play action. We know Kizer did it from center for the Fighting Irish, but it's another layer of dictating action rather than just reading the defense. I want to see the coaches challenge him with play action and bootlegs next preseason game.

    5. What else didn't we see? He isn't going to make adjustments at the line of scrimmage and audible. When he faces a regular season defense, the opponent is going to try to confuse him with multiple zone blitz looks. He needs to be able to handle those complex looks. Who knows if any preseason game will prepare him for that, which is why I just don't see Kizer as the opener starter.
     
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  7. Lee

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    Play action is Kizer's strength so we need to see it.

    I read a stat that he had the highest QB ranking on play action of the entire draft.

    The biggest concern that you mentioned is how would he play against a defense scheming for a rookie. He might not be quite ready, but might be forced based upon how shitty all other qb's on the team are.
     
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    View: https://twitter.com/NathanZegura/status/896023135287377921


    Not perfect, but he was pretty damn good with all the pressure/blitzes thrown at him.

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    They didn't blitz him on his first two series, to my memory, and the Saints started switching it up. I didn't mind it, the Saints need to see which of their third stringers can contend for pass rush specialists. They did the Browns coaches a favor because Kizer needs to face blitzes. That said, I didn't see a lot of disguised blitzes, zone blitzes, or complex blitz packages that any defense would run in the regular season. Again, we can all feel good about Kizer's performance and I thought I made that clear in my post... I just see that there's a huge difference in what Hue is asking him to do in the second half of a preseason game and a big difference in what the defensive coaches he faces are throwing at him.
     
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  10. Lee

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    6/9 with a TD is about as perfect as any hof qb is on blitz.

    Very, very small sample vs a very bad 3rd team defense.

    But that is a fantastic early sign.
     
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    3 sacks.. i thought Kizer made the case that he is the future, but we play assweiller or kessler until we can keep him whole..
     
  12. The Oi

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    Kind of short arm my balls.
     
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