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The Founder: 6.5/10; love docs, business movies

Fist Fight: 7.25/10; Charlie Day is really funny.
 
I don't understand how WW was preachy. It is a historical fact that women during the time the movie was set were not empowered to do much of anything but be mothers and secretaries. I don't know how you could do this movie without highlighting that WW was doing things that the typical woman would never fathom doing.

Complaining about this would be like complaining that a story about a black guy in rural Mississippi in 1960's has him overcoming racists to excel. Why can't the guy excel without preaching to us about racism?
 
I don't understand how WW was preachy. It is a historical fact that women during the time the movie was set were not empowered to do much of anything but be mothers and secretaries. I don't know how you could do this movie without highlighting that WW was doing things that the typical woman would never fathom doing.

Complaining about this would be like complaining that a story about a black guy in rural Mississippi in 1960's has him overcoming racists to excel. Why can't the guy excel without preaching to us about racism?
I was really let down by the movie, but if "feminism" is what bothered you about it, I think it says more about you than the movie.
 
I was really let down by the movie, but if "feminism" is what bothered you about it, I think it says more about you than the movie.
Man, that's a cringey, rep seeking post.

Most people reject feminism. Vast, vast majority. You realize this, yes? Are you under the impression that doesn't say more about feminism than it does the ppl who reject it?
 
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Man, that's a cringey, rep seeking post.

Most people reject feminism. Vast, vast majority. You realize this, yes?

Yeah that's not true.

You're going off the 18% number and making the false assumption that, because only 18% of people openly state they are feminists when asked means that some vast vast majority "reject feminism" which is false. In those same polls, a slim majority are "not" feminists, with a large number of folks simply answering "I don't know."

Are you under the impression that doesn't say more about feminism than it does the ppl who reject it?

Again, here is what I wrote in my last post on this topic:

"What I take from that is that a slim majority of all respondents (52%) say they aren't feminists; 18% say they are; 26% say they're not sure. If you assume 1/2 of all respondents are male; and 2/3rds of feminists are women, then those numbers are nowhere near as bad as one might think."

Moreover, it is widely accepted that, from a sociological standpoint, if you actually do a typology/ideological taxonomy test on people to interrogate their actual views rather than their views with respect to various labels, you will find far different answers than if you asked a person to label themselves.

We've seen this phenomena for years with respect to the word "liberal;" which for decades, was a dirty word. This is where the notion that America is/was a center-right country comes from; even though, if you ask people, an outright majority would support a liberal and populist platform.

So with respect to "feminism" it isn't enough to say "do you call yourself a feminist, yes/no/not sure?" And from that extrapolate that some "vast vast majority" openly "reject feminism." That's a false conclusion based on a false narrative.

I actually think you'd find something much more like the Washington Post poll, which found that about 1 in 2 people held actual feminist views (which is really what we're hoping to measure, the prevalence of said ideology); with a majority of women in favor and a minority of men in favor.

Again, to reiterate this point; here's a snippet from the project poll at WaPo that discusses the cause of such a wide survey variance:

"HOW MANY FEMINISTS ARE THERE? Polls have found that the number of Americans who identify as a feminist depends on how the question is asked. The Post-Kaiser survey’s question, first asked in a 1986 poll by Newsweek and Gallup, found 47 percent of Americans identifying as a “strong feminist” or “feminist,” while 44 percent identified as “not a feminist” or “anti-feminist.” Surveys asking yes-or-no about identifying as a feminist have found far fewer identifying with the movement, about 20 percent since the 1990s. The gap likely reflects the public’s conflicting feelings about the movement, with many seeing themselves somewhere in the middle. Fourteen percent in the Post-Kaiser survey called themselves “strong feminists,” while 4 percent identified as “anti-feminists.”"
 
Yeah that's not true.

You're going off the 18% number and making the false assumption that, because only 18% of people openly state they are feminists when asked means that some vast vast majority "reject feminism" which is false. In those same polls, a slim majority are "not" feminists, with a large number of folks simply answering "I don't know."



Again, here is what I wrote in my last post on this topic:

"What I take from that is that a slim majority of all respondents (52%) say they aren't feminists; 18% say they are; 26% say they're not sure. If you assume 1/2 of all respondents are male; and 2/3rds of feminists are women, then those numbers are nowhere near as bad as one might think."

Moreover, it is widely accepted that, from a sociological standpoint, if you actually do a typology/ideological taxonomy test on people to interrogate their actual views rather than their views with respect to various labels, you will find far different answers than if you asked a person to label themselves.

We've seen this phenomena for years with respect to the word "liberal;" which for decades, was a dirty word. This is where the notion that America is/was a center-right country comes from; even though, if you ask people, an outright majority would support a liberal and populist platform.

So with respect to "feminism" it isn't enough to say "do you call yourself a feminist, yes/no/not sure?" And from that extrapolate that some "vast vast majority" openly "reject feminism." That's a false conclusion based on a false narrative.

I actually think you'd find something much more like the Washington Post poll, which found that about 1 in 2 people held actual feminist views (which is really what we're hoping to measure, the prevalence of said ideology); with a majority of women in favor and a minority of men in favor.

Again, to reiterate this point; here's a snippet from the project poll at WaPo that discusses the cause of such a wide survey variance:

"HOW MANY FEMINISTS ARE THERE? Polls have found that the number of Americans who identify as a feminist depends on how the question is asked. The Post-Kaiser survey’s question, first asked in a 1986 poll by Newsweek and Gallup, found 47 percent of Americans identifying as a “strong feminist” or “feminist,” while 44 percent identified as “not a feminist” or “anti-feminist.” Surveys asking yes-or-no about identifying as a feminist have found far fewer identifying with the movement, about 20 percent since the 1990s. The gap likely reflects the public’s conflicting feelings about the movement, with many seeing themselves somewhere in the middle. Fourteen percent in the Post-Kaiser survey called themselves “strong feminists,” while 4 percent identified as “anti-feminists.”"

Did Fox News run a piece on how the feminists ruined Wonder Woman or something recently?

Edit: Yes, yes they did.
 
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Watching the red pill.

" raised important issues that often go undiscussed and made "well-deserved" criticisms of feminism. "

Its pretty persuasive. I'll give a full review tomorrow.
 
What is feminism and what's to reject about it? I don't remember what they want now.

I won't watch Wonder Woman because IDGAF about superhero movies. Can't get into them.
 
What is feminism and what's to reject about it? I don't remember what they want now.

I won't watch Wonder Woman because IDGAF about superhero movies. Can't get into them.
What's to reject is that there are people doing it wrong, and they're loud and oppressive. And it's also predicated on a substantial amount of sufficiently dishonest data.

1/5 is a lie.

Pay gap is a lie.

The Red Pill : feminism is an ideology that places significant emphasis on the importance of words, mention of the words mankind and fireman are unforgivable and evidence of the patriarchy. They claim this while naming essentially everything evil after men (patriarchy) and the purveyors of good after women (feminism). It is a power game, as evidenced by their intent to tear down the structures that may give men any sort of leg up, and supplant it with one of their liking. As much as feminism claims to be about equal rights, they don't do a damned thing for men in the areas in which they are suffering.

4/5 suicides are men. 99% of fatalities via war are male. 62% of college students are female. 99% of on the job deaths are men. Women live longer and happier. Women win custody 81% of the time. Alimony. Men have zero choice after conception. Men are twice as likely to be homeless and half as likely to have a family. Men make more money. As if that's the true measure of power, and it isn't earned via the work they put in and consequence of the choices they make. A man is conditioned to work and earn, and any woman can just.. Marry him and take half.

The reason people reject feminism is its advocates are often execrable, and it's sort of hard to assert women don't have a good deal.

The red pill argues men are and always have been used to progress society, and the awards and titles justify their oppression. Mens work is viewed as more valuable. But their lives are seen as expendable. Enjoy your paycheck.

Like with any movement, it's up to the movement to implement internal controls and handle disciples who tarnish the brand and impede progress. When movements take action like this, movements tend to fractionate, and then a civil war about "who is the real (feminist)" is fought.

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What's to reject is that there are people doing it wrong, and they're loud and oppressive. They also use dishonest data.

Like with any movement, it's up to the movement to implement internal control and handle disciples who tarnish the brand and impede progress. When movements take action like this, movements tend to fraction, and then a civil war about "who is the real (feminist) is fought.

Do they get triggered?
 
Do they get triggered?
The elephant in the room on both the mra and feminist side is antipathy as consequence of dating. Everyone is triggered. This won't mend anyone's wounds.
 
The elephant in the room on both the mra and feminist side is antipathy as consequence of dating. Everyone is triggered. This won't mend anyone's wounds.

Do you feel that rape culture is real?
 
Do you feel that rape culture is real?
I feel that honor killings are real.

Rape is 3/10,000 or something similar. 1/5 is such an egregious lie, especially when considering the source of that survey explicitly advised anyone and everyone not to use the survey how they of course used the survey, that anyone who claims it should immediately lose all credibility.

Do you believe we live in a country that apologizes for rape and thinks its socially acceptable to rape? I don't know any rape supporters. Zero. Eta, outside of war machine, who won't be eligible for parole until he's 71.

Men are raped more than women in America when considering prison. Rapes have been on a remarkable decline since forever. They are far more frequent in societies that have more precarious opinions of women.

 
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