Ratings System

[gourimoko]

1) Where did I insult you?

You wouldn't call someone a bitch on the street. It's insulting. It's beneath the conversation. You apologized, I accept, it's over.

2) Conversation is fine. My problem is not with conversation.

You sure about that?

It seems your entire argument is based on having a problem with the conversation, rather than having an opinion on the conversation. The entire purpose of this thread is to consolidate the conversation and make it actionable, rational, and focused. Isn't that a positive, regardless of the outcome taken by the admins?

3) Not exactly the most accurate representation in the world, but whatever. DeAndre Jordan must be the best shooter in basketball because his FG% is 70%.

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4) I said I don't care,

Rob, if you don't care, then please don't clutter the thread. The entire point of this thread is to discuss an issue you have now said 5 times you don't care about. What you are doing is essentially trolling.

but I do care about the complaining posts. This is not an unpopular stance. In fact, mods said they would start banning for complaining posts..

You surely realize that we have a thread in S34 relating to bannable offenses, right? Post in there and you'll get an immediate response, of that I'm sure.

5) I don't have an opinion. I didn't vote, and will happily provide a screenshot when back on a computer.

That may be the case, but this isn't the thread for it.

Anyway, I think my stance is clear now. Sorry for the confusion.

No problem.

 

[Ohio]

One, you have proven that they should be rid of bc the conversation is this irritating to you.

Two, it's just disrespectful that you put a lot of thought and effort into writing something and sharing and some 12 year old with s brain the size of a monkeys can tell you to shut the f up, you suck, with the click of a mouse.

The aftermath of ppl piling on, for weeks, bc a vote encouraged another which encouraged some idiot to disregard everything you say and make personal attacks which leads to more of the same, is a bunch of bullshit.

Sorry for having an opinion on sasha fuckig kaun.

In a way, I guess getting rid of the system would be my preference because that would elminate the complaining.

Other than that, I don't understand the rest of your post. Sasha Kaun?

 

[gourimoko]

Its time consuming and most of us have the attention span of a puppy.

I trimmed my original post just for you Lee...

 

[Ohio]

You wouldn't call someone a bitch on the street. It's insulting. It's beneath the conversation. You apologized, I accept, it's over.



You sure about that?

It seems your entire argument is based on having a problem with the conversation, rather than having an opinion on the conversation. The entire purpose of this thread is to consolidate the conversation and make it actionable, rational, and focused. Isn't that a positive, regardless of the outcome taken by the admins?



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Rob, if you don't care, then please don't clutter the thread. The entire point of this thread is to discuss an issue you have now said 5 times you don't care about. What you are doing is essentially trolling.



You surely realize that we have a thread in S34 relating to bannable offenses, right? Post in there and you'll get an immediate response, of that I'm sure.



That may be the case, but this isn't the thread for it.



No problem.

Yeah, next time I won't come in a thread like this while in a meeting on my phone

 

[FiveThous]

OK, as a poster who considers himself a contrarian on most things, I'm not exactly shocked by @gourimoko stance. Having a different or dissenting opinion is going to put a target on a poster's back.

I know why the disagree button is there and I actually like it. With that being said there's no way to make it conducive to furthering a debate. Even if there was a setting to queue up a response as to why you disagree people are probably going to post something like "......." Or "disagree".

This is my personal experience with the disagree button: It's generally the people who don't won't to get into an argument that hide behind it in fear of being wrong. Or as Gouri mentioned posters going with groupthink. If RCF has one problem (not uncommon to other large forums or large groups of people) it's that of the mob mentality.

Simply put, although I like the disagree button in theory, I don't see it's use on this forum.

 

[HerbFoster]

I loved seeing the wall of likes the old system generated when people posted good shit. It probably promoted group think, but I'd argue it was mostly positive. I don't know if the old format is impossible with the new software, but the current rating system is not helpful for my RCF browsing. The different rating options don't help MY user experience.

 

[FiveThous]

In my personal opinion the best system would be a points system. You can rank a post or get ranked on a scale of 1-5 or whatever the settings allow for. The catch is your rating ability is tied to your own points. So if you need 2000 rep points to give three points than I can only give one or two since I'm around 1800. If someone like @gourimoko or @MoFlo have 10000 points they can hand out up to 5 points.

IME it makes for better posting because people want to give out higher ratings so they put more effort in their own posts. Better posts = better points = better forum experience.

 

[Man Called X]

Doesn't it say something about your psyche that people downvoting posts on a website causes you so much grief?

 

[Tornicade]

I enjoy the ratings system with the dislike button. on many occasions it gives me another reason to post to find out what part of the post people disliked and encourage them to post on the topic. Also getting a dislike here and there lets me know that people are reading my post and despite not ever knowing what I am saying or why I am saying they are confident they dont like it.

Most of All the dislike button proves what an an Awesome poster I am by the sheer amount of likes i get in comparison to dislikes.

I also like when someone takes the time to disagree with me. I can make time to see if they have posted anything I disagree. it really enhances my experience by allowing me to get to know a few posters who would of otherwise never caught my attention.

so in summation I enjoy a system that encourage me to post more than what I otherwise would have and the disagree button gives me that. The Old button to me is just an acknowledgement that they get my point and are eager for me to come up with new things to say.

 

[Soda]

Doesn't it say something about your psyche that people downvoting posts on a website causes you so much grief?

Doesn't it say something about your psyche that downvoting posts on a website causes you so much pleasure?

I only say this because people utilize the rep system to downvote arbitrarily to cause ire.

 

[Cavatt]

I changed my posting style a couple of years ago during our running the lottery. I used to try to never get in the stupid debates or ever say anything about anyone personally at all. Most posts where I would try to bring up something thought provoking, interesting, or provide another point of view went basically unnoticed.

I started posting "controversial" viewpoints and attacking guys. Not caring what I said much anymore. I did a really fun barrage of anti-Love posts which sadly mostly turned true.

I got waay more likes and fewer dislikes than I would have thought. It just works, and it is sad. I still like the info that the board brings, but I feel the same way about it now as I did about cavfanatic before.

There are still some good posters on here, but I don't learn much about basketball anymore. The ratings are totally meaningless because I have gotten both good and bad for some of my best posts and identical ratings from willfully ignorant posts I know are crud. Make the same point as a Wine and Gold or a Max and get wildly different ratings for instance. People aren't even reading for content. They are looking for nits to pick.

I dream of a time when people will stop taking 1 small item from your post that could be hyperbolic to derail and invalidate your overarching point, and actually think about the content of what you said. Not likely.

 

[Cratylus]

OK, as a poster who considers himself a contrarian on most things, I'm not exactly shocked by @gourimoko stance. Having a different or dissenting opinion is going to put a target on a poster's back.

I know why the disagree button is there and I actually like it. With that being said there's no way to make it conducive to furthering a debate. Even if there was a setting to queue up a response as to why you disagree people are probably going to post something like "......." Or "disagree".

This is my personal experience with the disagree button: It's generally the people who don't won't to get into an argument that hide behind it in fear of being wrong. Or as Gouri mentioned posters going with groupthink. If RCF has one problem (not uncommon to other large forums or large groups of people) it's that of the mob mentality.

Simply put, although I like the disagree button in theory, I don't see it's use on this forum.

As is par for the course, I agree with @FiveThous . This pretty much sums up my thoughts on the "Disagree" and "Old" options. Instead of fostering an environment of further intelligent discussion, they seem to be merely a quick, retributive tool for the weak-minded who don't want to engage in debate or discussion. I think they fail to serve a legitimate purpose on RCF.

 

[Cratylus]

double post

 

[Cashius X]

The bitching about the down votes is FAR, FAR more annoying.

And to you, it obviously IS a big deal, because 1/3rd of your posts are bitching about the down votes. Not to mention, the creation of this thread.

Personally, I don't give a shit about down votes. Keep them, rid of them, I do not care. I just wish people would stop crying about it. I thought people were going to start getting banned for complaining about it? I'd like to see that enforced...

Something that would be nice to see, that actually matters, is the other positive ratings being accounted for in the individual-post-profile of the poster. Instead, we only see Likes Received for some reason.

Lol, and bitching about getting a virtual trophy commemorating your like count (golden penis) is any better?

Don't understand why you'd come in the thread and shit on the topic and people discussing it. If it didn't interest you in the first place, then why even click on the thread?

And if you can't discuss the ratings system in its own individual thread in the correct section of the forums then where can you discuss it?

Gour made some great points, you might've noticed had you not been so eager and giddy to demean the people who view the "disagree" and "old" ratings as a problem.

Related to the topic, I wouldn't go so far as to say we get rid of the "disagree" and the "old" ratings but I will say that both are being exploited. Many people who don't feel the need to debate simply click away without voicing their sentiments and others give negative ratings just to be petty. Don't think this was the initial intent of this function..

 

[The Oi]

Max out my dislikes please. I want to set a record.