Baker Mayfield: Fire The Cannons

[GonzoRatso88]

I know a lot of people who work in Barea liked Darnold during the college season. The tipping point seemed to be when Dorsey brought in Scot McCloughan as a consultant. Theres a lot of football to be played and Mayfield will eventually have some struggles, but McCloughan deserves some kudos for making an against the grain assessment.

I read a great article on McCloughan and despite his personal demons/issues, many consider him to be an excellent talent evaluator and someone who can mine talent deep in the draft.

 

[The Oi]

I read a great article on McCloughan and despite his personal demons/issues, many consider him to be an excellent talent evaluator and someone who can mine talent deep in the draft.

Supposedly he’s really into femdom and facesitting porn, which could be either good or bad.

 

[Urban]

Is this guy really pumping his chest about nailing the Baker Mayfield pick after ONE pre-draft post about wanting Baker (without an iota of analysis) and ONE NFL preseason game?

 

[CBBI]

For what it's worth, I don't believe Dorsey needed McCloughan to sell him on Mayfield at all.

Dorsey admitted before the draft that he had personally scouted Mayfield six times while he was unemployed.

I think Mayfield was Dorsey's guy all along and having Wolf and McCloughan come to the same conclusion independent of him simply reaffirmed what he already believed.

 

[Ohio]

I was a HUGE fan of taking Baker before we drafted him. I watched hours of tape (not highlights - ALL of their passes) of each of the top 4 QBs in the draft (Baker, Darnold, Allen, Rosen). Baker blew them out of the water. I had no pre-bias either... I don't watch college football and don't care to. It wasn't Baker's system - it was his ability to:

1. Read the defense pre-snap
2. Pick a high-efficient target as a result
3. Make multiple reads and cycle through options quickly if that initial target isn't open
4. Demonstrate pocket presence and awareness of defenders and blitzes
5. Deliver the ball powerfully and accurately

He protects the ball well, makes good decisions but does it while being a gun-slinger. He's not an ultra-conservative good decision-maker. He has been relatively healthy and can make plays with his feet. Darnold fumbles all the time and fails against talent, Rosen crumbles under pressure and will likely stay hurt, and Allen just plain sucks. Strong arm and nothing else.

The ONLY knock against Baker was just his height. If he were 6'4, he would've been the consensus #1 overall and likely Andrew Luck-ish can't-miss pick. So you have to ask yourself... why would you allow his height (which isn't even THAT bad... he's practically 6'2) overshadow all of the above?

I'm sorry, but the rest of the guys just didn't compare to Baker and I saw that. I knew it. I'm so glad we drafted him and it's fun to look back at threads and see all the fans who were mad. Baker hasn't PROVEN anything yet, but I guarantee they're not feeling quite the same way about him right now.

You definitely didn't jerk yourself off enough here. Do better!

 

[CBBI]

View: https://twitter.com/Ryan_McCrystal/status/1028756221690634241

 

[Triplethreat]

You definitely didn't jerk yourself off enough here. Do better!

God you’re going to eat so much fucking Crow when Mayfield becomes an absolute star.

Lucky for you it’s going to be the best fucking tasting crow of all time because it means the Browns are now good as fuck.

 

[Ohio]

God you’re going to eat so much fucking Crow when Mayfield becomes an absolute star.

Lucky for you it’s going to be the best fucking tasting crow of all time because it means the Browns are now good as fuck.

Yo, I hope that happens.

But that post was still hilariously egotistical, though. Like damn.

 

[Real Deal]

I was a HUGE fan of taking Baker before we drafted him. I watched hours of tape (not highlights - ALL of their passes) of each of the top 4 QBs in the draft (Baker, Darnold, Allen, Rosen). Baker blew them out of the water. I had no pre-bias either... I don't watch college football and don't care to. It wasn't Baker's system - it was his ability to:

1. Read the defense pre-snap
2. Pick a high-efficient target as a result
3. Make multiple reads and cycle through options quickly if that initial target isn't open
4. Demonstrate pocket presence and awareness of defenders and blitzes
5. Deliver the ball powerfully and accurately

He protects the ball well, makes good decisions but does it while being a gun-slinger. He's not an ultra-conservative good decision-maker. He has been relatively healthy and can make plays with his feet. Darnold fumbles all the time and fails against talent, Rosen crumbles under pressure and will likely stay hurt, and Allen just plain sucks. Strong arm and nothing else.

The ONLY knock against Baker was just his height. If he were 6'4, he would've been the consensus #1 overall and likely Andrew Luck-ish can't-miss pick. So you have to ask yourself... why would you allow his height (which isn't even THAT bad... he's practically 6'2) overshadow all of the above?

I'm sorry, but the rest of the guys just didn't compare to Baker and I saw that. I knew it. I'm so glad we drafted him and it's fun to look back at threads and see all the fans who were mad. Baker hasn't PROVEN anything yet, but I guarantee they're not feeling quite the same way about him right now.

You beat that fucking chest from the rooftops!!!

Let the haters hear it!!!

 

[Lee]

View: https://twitter.com/Ryan_McCrystal/status/1028756221690634241[/QUOTE]

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When Gordon comes back, staying 50% down field on 20 yard throws with 12 attempts a game (6 in 2 quarters) will absolutely murder people. I don't think its sustainable, but it is very impressive.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Yeah the Barkley pick was bad, but a segment of Browns fans on Twitter and Facebook refuse to let it go that we didn’t draft a RB #1 overall for the first time in over 20 years

The hype machine on Barkley has been extraordinary

I think that, if Barkley is there at four, you absolutely consider it.

But drafting a RB first overall when there are three good QB options on the table and you haven't had a franchise QB in like thirty years? Madness.

 

[Randolphkeys]

For what it's worth, I don't believe Dorsey needed McCloughan to sell him on Mayfield at all.

Dorsey admitted before the draft that he had personally scouted Mayfield six times while he was unemployed.

I think Mayfield was Dorsey's guy all along and having Wolf and McCloughan come to the same conclusion independent of him simply reaffirmed what he already believed.

Don't sell them short. They used the time in between the college bowl season and the draft. Lane Adkins had reason to still talk about Darnold a week before. Not to call people out but behind closed doors I heard from three other connected people that Darnold believed he was going to get the call when the Browns were on the clock, and the Browns had him believing he was going to get the call. Meanwhile they were honest relating to Rosen he wasn't in the running. Why is that a bad thing? Rushing to judgement isn't a desired quality in a front office.

 

[CBBI]

Don't sell them short. They used the time in between the college bowl season and the draft. Lane Adkins had reason to still talk about Darnold a week before. Not to call people out but behind closed doors I heard from three other connected people that Darnold believed he was going to get the call when the Browns were on the clock, and the Browns had him believing he was going to get the call. Meanwhile they were honest relating to Rosen he wasn't in the running. Why is that a bad thing? Rushing to judgement isn't a desired quality in a front office.

I like Lane, but Dorsey publicly came out and said that he knew Mayfield was his guy on March 22nd.

The draft was exactly 5 weeks later.

Maybe Darnold thought he still had a chance and maybe Lane thought Darnold was the guy, but it seems pretty obvious to me that Dorsey didn’t make the decision on who to select all that late in the process.

Just because the media didn’t know doesn’t mean that Dorsey didn’t know.

My personal opinion is that Dorsey went into the draft process with Mayfield as his top guy and nothing happened in interviewing him, having him in the facility or watching him work out did anything to change his mind.

 

[GonzoRatso88]

I have a high school buddy who is an attorney/NFL agent who reps some smaller/undrafted guys. He said he spoke with Wolf after the draft who said that both the "analytics" and football guys both had Mayfield as their number 1 guy. They said it was his personality and ability to retain information that won them over as well. Both "sides of the house" liked him a lot. They like Darnold a lot but felt that Baker had something special to him and he checked off all the boxes for the analytics guys. Rosen was a guy they didn't like early on because of his personality but I think the coaches liked him a lot.

 

[Randolphkeys]

I like Lane, but Dorsey publicly came out and said that he knew Mayfield was his guy on March 22nd.

The draft was exactly 5 weeks later.

Looks like our timelines match, then. No reason to tell the media because you never know when you are going to find your draft target floating on a swan in Vegas. Keep that backup plan in your back pocket.