Resting Guys = Heavy fines?

[InBoobieWeTrust]

I bought tickets for Saturday. I don't see the Cavs sitting guys for another national TV Saturday game, especially at home.

If we rest anyone, I bet it will be against Charlotte on Friday and they will fly to Cleveland separately from whoever plays.

Cavs are usually pretty good about not resting guys at home(unless maybe it's the end of year with seeding locked in).

I could see us beating Charlotte with Love and Kyrie too, but unless they're cleared for back to backs, I'd guess we still sit them and play for the win against Washington.

I think the Washington game is one were eyeing up as a tune-up, and a good way to eliminate them as a one seed threat even though they aren't much of one anymore.

 

[MJA1080]

You are ridiculous and lying to yourself. Basketball players have time off, vacation days, off-season days, days with no practices ALREADY. Games are obligatory to be played, as their fans are expecting them to be by paying for tickets to see them play. It's how the game was built, by basketball players playing the fucking game. Not multimillionaire divas thinking they deserve to take games off-- well i guess that is what it has become right.

You're acting like the games stop being played and the fans don't get to watch a game. These are still NBA players going out and playing regardless of if the stars are in or not. I went to the game where we got crushed by Miami on the home and home and I would have rather watched Kay Felder get smoked off the court because of our guys resting, rather than trying then our stars playing healthy but lazy and uninterested.

 

[Jscc]

Or the mileage Kyrie has at the very old age of 24? After KI rode LBJ's coat-tail to a championship?

You complain about Kyrie missing work and then you go and marginalize his work, the thing you want him to do more of?

Just drop the facade and be honest: Kyrie missing games [for whatever reason] inconveniences your self-interest and you don't like it.

 

[HurricaneKid]

This is a really precarious position. I certainly don't want LeBron playing MORE minutes. But the truth is all the players are THRILLED about the 110M salary cap and that comes, almost entirely, from the TV money. The ratings from GSW/SAS and Cle/LAC were disastrous and if such trends continue would cost not only the owners billions, but the players as well.

The problem is entirely a scheduling issue. Next year they will absolutely make sure that teams have rest before and after these marquee games. And if teams still hold their guys out so they can have 3-4 straight days of rest the league will absolutely be able to come after them for the loss of revenues the league's partners suffered because of it.

I really don't think teams will fudge the injury reports to sit guys as a general rule. That is where it would get interesting because I don't know what the league can actually do if the team says a guy is hurt. If the league is demanding medical reports, that it where it starts getting dicey.

 

[Simon]

 

[Surge]

Love Pop. Perfect answer.

 

[blommen]

Of course it sucks for the fans who spent money on a game with their favorite team coming through the only time all season, and I can even understand, if not sympathize with the networks who shelled out billions of Dollars on a tv deal, which got the players their money to begin with but.... This is on the league, not the fucking teams or players. The players are playing a grueling 82 game season fraught with back to backs, 4 in 5's, etc. and the goal of the teams is to manage their way through that season so they can be effective come playoffs and finals. Resting players helps in that regard.

And don't even give that shit about "oh, Jordan totally would've played" or "Barkley didn't sit out games". Well, maybe if they did those guys would've been in the league longer than they were in the first place. We've gotten smarter for a reason here, we are much better at optimizing health and preventing injuries. Resting and managing minutes go hand in hand with that shit. It's the reason LeBron is playing in his 13th season and still isn't slowing down, and it's the reason why he'll probably hang around at least 5 more years. It's the reason Timmy managed to play at such a high level as he did until the very end. It's the reason why AD, Kyrie, Steph, all these younger players have been able to overcome harrowing injury histories and currently play at the top of their health. I get that it sucks in the short term, but in the long run it's a no-brainer, business wise as well as healthwise.

The NBA probably realizes all this, and my guess would be that an earlier start on the reg. season, and a rule of thumb that says no nationally televised games as part of a back to back is going to go a long way in preventing this.

 

[ACisKING]

Of course it sucks for the fans who spent money on a game with their favorite team coming through the only time all season, and I can even understand, if not sympathize with the networks who shelled out billions of Dollars on a tv deal, which got the players their money to begin with but.... This is on the league, not the fucking teams or players. The players are playing a grueling 82 game season fraught with back to backs, 4 in 5's, etc. and the goal of the teams is to manage their way through that season so they can be effective come playoffs and finals. Resting players helps in that regard.

And don't even give that shit about "oh, Jordan totally would've played" or "Barkley didn't sit out games". Well, maybe if they did those guys would've been in the league longer than they were in the first place. We've gotten smarter for a reason here, we are much better at optimizing health and preventing injuries. Resting and managing minutes go hand in hand with that shit. It's the reason LeBron is playing in his 13th season and still isn't slowing down, and it's the reason why he'll probably hang around at least 5 more years. It's the reason Timmy managed to play at such a high level as he did until the very end. It's the reason why AD, Kyrie, Steph, all these younger players have been able to overcome harrowing injury histories and currently play at the top of their health. I get that it sucks in the short term, but in the long run it's a no-brainer, business wise as well as healthwise.

The NBA probably realizes all this, and my guess would be that an earlier start on the reg. season, and a rule of thumb that says no nationally televised games as part of a back to back is going to go a long way in preventing this.

If national tv games wont be on a back to backs, the league better make sure that the teams that aren't on national tv nearly as often aren't playing more back to backs to fill out the schedule, which almost certainly will happen unless the season is substantially lengthened. Otherwise the rich would just be getting richer while the less talented teams are at even more of a disadvantage

 

[randymoss1881]

The Cavs should sit the Big 3 the very next nationally televised game. Keeping it 100 on the troll scale.

So cool almost like the fans don't pay a lot for tickets. Come on man


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[shoes22]

If national tv games wont be on a back to backs, the league better make sure that the teams that aren't on national tv nearly as often aren't playing more back to backs to fill out the schedule, which almost certainly will happen unless the season is substantially lengthened. Otherwise the rich would just be getting richer while the less talented teams are at even more of a disadvantage

Unfortunately, I don't think the league actually cares about that. The national TV deals are where there's a lot of money riding on them, so it's important the "national TV teams" don't have back to backs when one of those games happen.

If a game isn't being broadcast nationally, the league ultimately doesn't care.

 

[Jstock12]

Maybe it's just because we are contenders but damn does the regular season feel longer each passing year. I contribute some of that to "chill" mode but by shortening the season to 70 games, that essentially would remove all the back-to-backs.

Shortening the season is a nice idea in theory, but it's not going to happen. More likely they just get rid of some B2Bs by simply making the regular season a little longer. A ton of records and stats in NBA history are based on a 82 game season. Less games means it would get really tough for newer players to reach the top of the All-Time scoring, passing, rebounding lists etc. It might seem trivial, but NBA isn't getting rid of that. They want those records to be broken. It's good for the business.

 

[tonyn]

Naturally its All about money and showcasing the "stars" but from a team managment standpoint why the fuck would I care about ratings and all that bullshit?
Yea the nba want wants to put its best foot forward and display their most recognized players for mass media consumption?!
Are you Fucking kidding

 

[The Wizard of Moz]

You are ridiculous and lying to yourself. Basketball players have time off, vacation days, off-season days, days with no practices ALREADY. Games are obligatory to be played, as their fans are expecting them to be by paying for tickets to see them play. It's how the game was built, by basketball players playing the fucking game. Not multimillionaire divas thinking they deserve to take games off-- well i guess that is what it has become right.

Nice to know how much you care about people who struggle in life. That they don't deserve to go to a basketball game or treat themselves ever. Kind of twat are you.

I'll go ahead and quote James Harden for you- "It's not about my rest ... it's about the leadership that I show to my teammates and this entire organization and my fans," Harden told reporters at Tuesday's practice. "I'm blessed. I'm 27 years old and I'm able to play basketball at a high level. It won't be here for long, so I take advantage of the opportunity while I'm here and I just have fun doing something that I love."

Now that isn't some "get off my yard" old NBA player, giving it to you straight.

James Harden took an entire fucking playoff series off last year when he looked like he couldn't even be bothered to show up against Golden State in the first round.

Where was all of this blessed just to be here bull shit when he sleep walked to a non-competitive sweeping?

 

[FritzLn]

like i said earlier and was told i was imagining things, when lebron sits it's taken as a personal affront towards every working person on earth. no one else. yet ppl will also say "the regular season doesn't matter, i only pay attention during the playoffs when they play hard"

well which one is it?
fuck your children, hope they have a terrible childhood and learn life isn't fair

 

[Cassity14]

Am I the only one that thinks there is a legit gripe here?

The players get the money they are currently getting because of the T.V. deal.

GMs get a bigger salary cap to work with beause of the T.V. deal.

Owners get a ton of money from the T.V. deal.

They aren't living up to their end of the deal by resting healthy players during nationally televised games.

This a pretty classic case of one side having cake and eating it too without realizing where the cake came from.