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This years 2nd next years 3rd or Belicheck can eat a cock.
This years 2nd, next years 3rd, AND Belicheck can eat a cock.
This years 2nd next years 3rd or Belicheck can eat a cock.
My issue with him for the number twelve pick is that, when he was drafted, he clearly was not worth a pick that high. What has he done since then to justify his price rising to that level? Nothing.
I'll preface this with: I do not under any circumstances want to use #12 in a Jimmy trade.
But playing devil's advocate, I could see how people could argue that Jimmy's value has changed greatly from his draft position...but I could see it in both directions.
I could argue that taking a developmental 2nd round QB and teaching him how to operate from under center, how to command an NFL locker room and huddle, how to understand an NFL playbook, how to read an NFL defense, how to adjust to the speed of NFL athletes, etc. actually increases his value. Especially when he learned all of this from freaking Bill Belichick and Tom Brady. This is serious work that you have to do with rookie QBs that we would not have to do in this case, because it was already done by the best in the business..
But on the other side of the coin, his contract situation is absolutely a negative. You're spending draft picks on a guy who you have only one guaranteed year of control over on a reasonable price tag, with only that year to evaluate what kind of money he deserves moving forward. That's a huge negative.
No I do not want to spend #12 on Jimmy. But I also don't believe his value is #62 pick in the draft anymore by any means.
The "Matt Cassel" effect does not scare me. If anything, it speaks to the high quality coaching he's receiving that they were able to get Cassel to play so well in New England.
Won 2 super bowlsMy issue with him for the number twelve pick is that, when he was drafted, he clearly was not worth a pick that high. What has he done since then to justify his price rising to that level? Nothing.
Matt Cassel inherited a team that went 18-1. Playing with Randy Moss in his prime, and Wes Welker. It wasn't just coaching, he had superior talent all around him.
He was still a game-managing QB that season, and sure, McDaniels did a great job protecting him and maximizing what he could do well.
Everyone overreacts to the Matt Cassel situation. It just speaks more to how talented New England was at that point. Jimmy never inherited a team remotely that good offensively.
He didn't throw the football to one single pro-bowl player.
He was still playing with a very experienced, well-oiled offensive machine, and in a system where he had the benefit of watching the greatest QB of all time manage it.
Whether or not he will be equally proficient in another system, and after other teams have a chance to get game tape on him and make adjustments, is an open question.
Cassel made the Pro Bowl initially with KC. But once teams got enough tape on him, he was relegated to scrub-hood. The exact same could easily be true with Garappolo -- he wouldn't be the first backup to look great for a couple of starts, but end up not being a legitimate starter.
The overreaction to the Cassel situation, and the Osweiler situation ("he" "won" a super bowl too, you know), is that idea that because a backup looks competent when pressed into service for a super bowl caliber team, he MUST be valuable because he's obviously going to be able to recreate that competence somewhere else.
The entire league watched him play, and the Pats had to put the franchise tag on him to make sure he didn't walk. The Chiefs certainly watched him play, and gave him $28 million guaranteed.
Exactly..Why is this still an ongoing debate?
If a Cleveland Browns QB put up Jimmy G three game sample, everyone in here would be saying that the sample size is too small.