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The Jimmy Haslam Thread

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billmac91 said:
That's not entirely true...there are certainly teams that remain solvent only because of National TV deals alone. If it were more incumbent on them to secure local television deals (like say MLB), you'd see franchises like Jacksonville struggling.

It's hard to know without seeing all of the financials, but there's a reason markets like Jacksonville, formerly San Diego.....were always up for relocation. Owners felt they'd get much more bang for their buck in different cities.

If fan attendance is down significantly, and TV ratings dip in CLE, there will be mounting pressure for new ownership. Haslam will become a significant reason as to "why" people hve turned away. If new ownership means more $$$ in owners pockets, he gone.
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The point is that JAX is struggling compared to other NFL Franchises. But as a business organization in general they're raking.
 
[Insert rebate joke here].

Oh wait, this isn't The OBR.



On a serious note, I love the Crew staying in Columbus. Glad they did it. They'll be able to do some Training Camp/scrimmage stuff in the new Crew stadium once they build it. They'll also be able to have some Crew games (pre-season?) in Cleveland. Smart.
 
Are they talking about keeping it in Columbus? Any talk of moving it to Cleveland? Fill more dates in First Energy Stadium
 
Phills14 said:
Are they talking about keeping it in Columbus? Any talk of moving it to Cleveland? Fill more dates in First Energy Stadium
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Would assume they are staying in Columbus sounds like they'll be majority owners and the rest of the group will be made up of Columbus business people I believe. Most of the MLS teams will play exhibitions matches against the big European club teams during the lead up to their season so I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple of those in Cleveland.
 
So am shocked no one has brought this up yet.

But does anyone else think Haslam was the one forcing the Watson push? Berry quite frankly just does not seem like the sort of person to go after a player being sued by 23 women. While the browns have gone after some players with questionable backgrounds it seems they mostly did their homework/let the dust settle before they signed those players.
 
bob2the2nd said:
So am shocked no one has brought this up yet.

But does anyone else think Haslam was the one forcing the Watson push? Berry quite frankly just does not seem like the sort of person to go after a player being sued by 23 women. While the browns have gone after some players with questionable backgrounds it seems they mostly did their homework/let the dust settle before they signed those players.
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Was thinking the same thing but rather the capital both draft and personnel that were rumored. Lind of had that "Draft Day" movie feel where we knew it was way to steep for our taste but ownership wanted us to do something drastic.
 
Haslam had obviously shaken hands with the devil before and has said the browns have been a laughing stock for too long.
 
bob2the2nd said:
So am shocked no one has brought this up yet.

But does anyone else think Haslam was the one forcing the Watson push? Berry quite frankly just does not seem like the sort of person to go after a player being sued by 23 women. While the browns have gone after some players with questionable backgrounds it seems they mostly did their homework/let the dust settle before they signed those players.
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Sounds like Berry is all in, in lockstep with Haslam that the only thing that matters is winning football games.
 
“This is the business we’ve chosen.”

- Hyman Roth.

The NFL is the pinnacle of a violent, brutal sport. The brain injuries inflicted on players of all ages are reason enough for some people to turn away from the sport. If anyone wants to claim football is a barbaric game that isn’t worth the injuries and therefore they oppose it for that reason I’d have to say they have a point.

A sports that has physical force, brutal injuries, competitiveness, money, fame and also improves a player’s chances with women is going to attract some men who are not choirboys. This is a violent country (look at our crime statistics compared with other Western countries) and the game glorifies brute force and big hits. It’s a major long term concern for the NFL (although I doubt they’ll ever run out of gladiators).

The fact that a certain percentage of the players are brutes, cretins, abusers, goons etc is a bug, a feature and I would argue inevitable. The financial and fame awards (I.e. winning the Super Bowl or the College Championship) mean there’s just too much incentives to let legit bad boys play even if their personal conduct is disgusting. Take the Bills Mafia (please!) — you think fans that slam chicks through plastic tables give a shit? They don’t, and a substantial portion of the NFL fanbase don’t give a shit either.

If you’re an NFL owner then you’re in the modern day gladiator business which comes with morally questionable people that, inevitably, will be employed. The internal logic of the business drives everyone. The NBA was not going to run Kobe off unless it absolutely had to.

I respect those repelled by the behavior of some players and if they want to walk away from the game I respect that decision. I would merely point out that this is part of the game, unfortunately, and I see very little likelihood that will change anytime soon. Business is just too good.
 
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