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People here in STL are pissed. I do not like football but it kinda sucks just the way the owner trashed STL when that team's only time in relevance was in STL.
 
All due respect, Andrew, but the L.A. Rams had a great tradition and history. Merlin Olsen and Eric Dickerson baby!

In my mind, this righted a wrong. St. Louis shouldn't have poached the Rams in the first place. I'm glad one of the original LA teams is returning.
 
Many St. Louis Rams fans are converting to Chiefs fans, which I don't have a problem with. Closest location if they want to go to home games. But many are also probably playing it more safe and converting to fans of winners like the Patriots, Seahawks, etc. I didn't know the Rams started in Cleveland though.

I'm not sure how NFL salary cap works, but does this mean they have increased salary cap or at least probably be able to spend more in Los Angeles in a bigger market with probably much more revenue, especially in the beginning with the excitement of a new team in town. I would guess the chances of the Rams becoming a good team again and turning it around are much higher in LA.
 
Couldnt disagree more. Too much money being made to justify taking any owners team- let alone screwing a municipality that built their stadium. Also the talent pools in baseball and basketball are gigantic- more then large enough to support 30 teams. Basketball has added Europe over the last two decades for talent and baseball has added both Asia and soon Cuba, which could pump out more players than the Dominican. The only argument for contraction is that it makes a championship much harder when 30 teams are vying every year for one title.
When half of your teams are under .500, a team loses 28 games in a row and the top to bottom team salary difference is over 200 million, it's time to get rid of the scraps.
 
I'm not sure how NFL salary cap works, but does this mean they have increased salary cap or at least probably be able to spend more in Los Angeles in a bigger market with probably much more revenue, especially in the beginning with the excitement of a new team in town. I would guess the chances of the Rams becoming a good team again and turning it around are much higher in LA.
NFL has a hard cap, and you can't go over it.

You can roll over unused cap space from the previous year, but that just means you underspent the year before.
 
All due respect, Andrew, but the L.A. Rams had a great tradition and history. Merlin Olsen and Eric Dickerson baby!

In my mind, this righted a wrong. St. Louis shouldn't have poached the Rams in the first place. I'm glad one of the original LA teams is returning.
Agreed. The way I looked at it it would be like if we never got our abortion of an expansion team and two years from now the owner of the Ravens moved the team back. It would be righting something that should have never happened.

At the same time I still feel awful for St. Louis Rams fans. It isn't their fault that there was a wrong in the first place. Especially the younger fans who grew up with the Rams. I hate seeing a team move. Feels bad man :-(
 
All due respect, Andrew, but the L.A. Rams had a great tradition and history. Merlin Olsen and Eric Dickerson baby!

In my mind, this righted a wrong. St. Louis shouldn't have poached the Rams in the first place. I'm glad one of the original LA teams is returning.
I am only posting because it affects the city I reside in, I know very little about this whole thing. But I thought they initially left bc of stadium funding and the fact that the fanbase just wasn't financially supporting the team so to say STL stole them is a bit harsh. I just don't see the logic if it was a fact the LA fanbase couldn't support 1 team how 20 years later they can support 2? Those teams aren't putting together winning seasons anytime soon.

I just only care how the owner belittled this town. If you are not from STL, you might tend to side with him but when the Cardinals sucked in the late 90s, early 2000s, the Rams were the team in this city. That is like that in almost every city. I guess I just didn't like how he said it was because of a lack of support, it clearly wasn't. The league made up its mind to try LA again and there was nothing that was going to change that. When is the last time a city with a pro team who put together public funding for a beautiful new stadium is denied and is looked as the bad thing in this whole thing? The bad thing is the Rams owner, classic narcissist.
 
There are very few pro franchise owners who are completely good or completely bad. I have an old friend from college who lives in St. Louis and he updated me on some of the details of Kroenke. He does sound like a douchbag, and his toupee is simply an abomination.

However, it is hard for anyone to find villains or heroes in this business of pro franchises moving. Professional sports franchises ALL promote themselves as representations of the community. They leverage that marketing into tax dollars funneled into their own profit margin. And then, they have a contract run out and threaten to leave like any other steel mill or factory. At that point, its just who will be the highest bidder and all that community crap is thrown out the door. It's a betrayal every time.

But St. Louis did it to Los Angeles when I was a kid, taking advantage of the transient nature of L.A. taxpayers. L.A. football fans were also torn from the Raiders and Rams both stationed in the same city, and you can blame Al Davis for that money grab. Davis also set the precedent for Art Modell to act like a money-starved carpetbagger.

So to summarize:

1. Blame Al Davis for every evil owner move that happened in the NFL.

2. Phoenix shouldn't have stolen the Cardinals in the first place.

3. The United States shouldn't have stolen both Phoenix and Los Angeles from Mexico during the Mexican-American War, 1846 - 1848.
 
The only logical thing to do and to follow a pattern is STL needs to take back the Cardinals. :box2:
 
Either that or the Native Americans need to take back Atlanta, DC, Cleveland and Tallahassee. Also some high schools in small towns.
 
NFL has a hard cap, and you can't go over it.

You can roll over unused cap space from the previous year, but that just means you underspent the year before.
I thought it was a hard cap. But not every team has the same salary obviously so there must be some sort of penalty, and certain franchises can afford those penalties more I'm guessing. I was surprised to find the Jaguars have the highest salary in 2016. Or maybe they just have the most available cap room.

http://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/
 
I thought it was a hard cap. But not every team has the same salary obviously so there must be some sort of penalty, and certain franchises can afford those penalties more I'm guessing. I was surprised to find the Jaguars have the highest salary in 2016. Or maybe they just have the most available cap room.

http://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/
If you are under the cap for a season, you can roll the extra space into the next year.

So say the cap is 100mil and the Chiefs have 80 mil in payroll. Next year, the cap jumps to 110 mil. The Chiefs can spend 130mil for next season.

Of course, if they use all 130 mil, they have nothing to roll over into the next year, so they'll likely be over the cap the following year.
 
Of course, if they use all 130 mil, they have nothing to roll over into the next year, so they'll likely be over the cap the following year.
Which means if the cap stays the same, at 130 in this scenario, they can't sign/re-sign anybody if it means going over that number no matter what? Chiefs got half the defense coming off the books this year. I'm worried they will lose a lot of them. Sorry for getting a cap lesson in the middle of this thread, but I obviously don't know much about NFL cap.

The Jaguars dilemma of having so much cap is that nobody will want to go there anyway.
 

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