The next star or super star safari.

[NMCav]

Boy if Phil is serious about cleaning the slate in NY, Cavs are one of the few teams that can get their hands on a top 5 pick AND get Melo to waive his no-trade.

I wonder if Ainge would take Anthony along with Porzingis like Cleveland might.

No because Melo wouldn't waive to go to Boston

 

[The Wizard of Moz]

Heat this fucker up with your best trades

We got assets now fellas

 

[Sebastian]

Heat this fucker up with your best trades

We got assets now fellas

1) George hates OKC. Obtainable with BKN pick or Love.
2) Cousins will likely be available. Trade for the BKN pick if they can get an idea he will re-sign. He is a risk though.
3) CP3 grows to hate Harden.
4) Jimmy Butler decided Minneapolis is fucking cold.

Anyone else worth that pick if the Nets perform as expected?

 

[bee-eazy13]

1) George hates OKC. Obtainable with BKN pick or Love.
2) Cousins will likely be available. Trade for the BKN pick if they can get an idea he will re-sign. He is a risk though.
3) CP3 grows to hate Harden.
4) Jimmy Butler decided Minneapolis is fucking cold.

Anyone else worth that pick if the Nets perform as expected?

Here's the plan:

1) Trade IT and TT for Beverly and Jordan
2) Trade the Nets pick for Butler
3) Trade Love for PG at the deadline
4) Roll into the finals with Bev-Jimmy-PG-Bron-DJ
5) Warriors forfeit and Cavs are your 2018 champions!!!

Even though I'm drunk, this is kinda what we'd have to pull off to win next year...FU Durant for breaking the NBA!!!!

 

[Alec]

Whiteside

For

Shumpert
Thompson
Brooklyn pick

 

[Cavs12]

I know this would be crazyyyyy....and I know I will get flamed...
What if NO goes bad this year.... early? This is supposed to be the best draft since 2003. Why not go all in?

DMC to Boston for Al Horford + Lakers Pick

Brow to Cleveland for TT or Love + BRK Pick + Cedi

Trade Rondo at deadline for late first....

They could have legitimately have 3 lottery picks, 2 in the top 10 picks.... Just throwing it out there. If they start out awful or get some injuries to guard play. As a GM and owner why not go for broke?

They'd get Love and Horford they could trade in the offseason or keep them plus if the draft pans out positive and those rookies are that legit you got a decent team.

 

[rabman_gold]

What I'd like to see happen after LeBron's done in Cleveland is not necessarily what will actually happen.

It's very hard for most teams to recover from a superstar's departure.

1950's Minneapolis Lakers had George Mikan. But despite competing with the Celtics in the 60s with West and Baylor weren't able to win one again until getting Chamberlain and Goodrich as well.

1960's Celtics had Russell, Heinsohn, Cousy, and Havlicek as a super core (over the course of 13 years). But needed 3-4 years of rebuilding their team with Cowens and White in order to win 2 championships over 3 years. Then they were irrelevant until Larry Bird fell into their laps.

1970's Lakers weren't the same after Chamberlain and West retired. Even getting Abdul-Jabbar (who happened to force his way there) wasn't enough. Again, they managed to get Magic to restart their dynasty. And Worthy was a stroke of good fortune from getting the 1982 Cavs' pick from Dallas (via Ted Stepien).

The Adbul-Jabbar Bucks had a very short window that was shortened further when he forced the trade from Milwaukee. They were mostly irrelevant until the 80s (while the Celtics and Lakers reigned) and never seriously competed again after 2 decades.

The Celtics and Lakers had very different paths after the end of the 80s. Kareem, Magic, and Worthy were done as a team by the start of the 90s. As were Bird, McHale, and Parish. But for nearly half a decade, the Lakers needed the help of Hollywood and the big city to get Shaq and Kobe together. Thanks to that, they managed 2 different dynasties in the 2000s.

The Celtics, on the other hand, had a small window with Paul Pierce and Antoine Walker before briefly retooling with an older Garnett and Allen. Both took more than half a decade before getting the pieces to contend and only got 1 championship out of it.

The Bulls (after Jordan) barely competed. The furthest they got was in 2011 with Derrick Rose.


TL;DR
Only the Celtics (in the 60s and 70s) and Lakers (70s, 80s, and 90s) have managed to recover in short time-span in order to contend with the proper superstars. We may not seriously compete for quite some time.

But we have the opportunity to reboot. That unprotected draft pick from the Nets is a gold mine. Just like the Lakers got James Worthy from our 1982 pick...

 

[ice cream man]

I'm not trading the BKN for a rental. If Paul George/Demarcus Cousins commit, then of course.

If Lue would be willing to slow down the pace against GS, we can trade Shump/Frye/BKN pick/fillers for Marc Gasol. Making it a half court game against GS is the right thing to do with the roster we have now anyway.

 

[bigfigga12]

My 2 pipe dreams for the Brooklyn pick, a pick who just netted superstar Kyrie Irving, are Russell Westbrook or Boogie Cousins, with Paul George a close 3rd.

Westbrook would be unreal. Imagine how motivated he'd be against Durant and Golden State. His length would give Golden State problems. Acquiring him would also allow Thomas to be moved for another significant piece, a 2 for 1 so to speak.

Boogie is a Golden State problem, or night,are if u so choose. They do not have the roster makeup to guard a guy who can be that dominant down low, yet still spread the floor and knock down the 3.

 

[NMCav]

My 2 pipe dreams for the Brooklyn pick, a pick who just netted superstar Kyrie Irving, are Russell Westbrook or Boogie Cousins, with Paul George a close 3rd.

Westbrook would be unreal. Imagine how motivated he'd be against Durant and Golden State. His length would give Golden State problems. Acquiring him would also allow Thomas to be moved for another significant piece, a 2 for 1 so to speak.

Boogie is a Golden State problem, or night,are if u so choose. They do not have the roster makeup to guard a guy who can be that dominant down low, yet still spread the floor and knock down the 3.

Westbrook would never happen OKC won't trade him.

 

[Cavs12]

Westbrook would never happen OKC won't trade him.

Even when the season starts and he hasn't signed that extension?

 

[Cavs12]

My 2 pipe dreams for the Brooklyn pick, a pick who just netted superstar Kyrie Irving, are Russell Westbrook or Boogie Cousins, with Paul George a close 3rd.

Westbrook would be unreal. Imagine how motivated he'd be against Durant and Golden State. His length would give Golden State problems. Acquiring him would also allow Thomas to be moved for another significant piece, a 2 for 1 so to speak.

Boogie is a Golden State problem, or night,are if u so choose. They do not have the roster makeup to guard a guy who can be that dominant down low, yet still spread the floor and knock down the 3.

My pipedream?

Westbrook doesn't sign his extension we trade Shump/Frye + fillers BRK pick for him.

George wants out too. IT/Crowder/Cedi/Zizic

Makes OKC still competitive in the west. Lets not forget IT was the main piece for boston last year. Plus they get a top 5 pick....

 

[NMCav]

Even when the season starts and he hasn't signed that extension?

OKC needs to get people into the arena if they openly trade Westbrook for a draft pick they have no draw and lose a ton of money. Please be realistic with your trade scenarios.

 

[bigfigga12]

Man get a clue before telling people to be realistic with their trade scenarios. My god. Westbrook is Paul George Part 2 next season. He has a PLAYER option for 2018-19, and can opt out after next season. Your logic, and trust me I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt even calling it that, only makes sense if Westbrook were on a Kyrie type deal, locked up over several seasons and trading him for a pick would piss off the fan base. Westbrook holds all the leverage here. If he tells the Thunder he's opting out and it's a certainty, are you suggesting the Thunder call his bluff and get NOTHING in return for him? That would really pump up the fan base. In fact, I'm calling it right now... if Russell Westbrook wants to be a Cav and help take down Durant and the Warriors, he can make it happen. All he does is demand a trade to Cleveland. Not sure of his no trade clause rights but even if the Thunder could trade him anywhere they wanted like the Pacers did George, whose presenting a better deal than the Brooklyn lotto pick? NOBODY. THE Pacers received GARBAGE for Paul George and still did so because it's STILL better than nothing. You are asking for people to be realistic yet you are suggesting the Thunder let Westbrook leave for zilch. Ya you are a genius.

 

[gourimoko]

Man get a clue before telling people to be realistic with their trade scenarios. My god. Westbrook is Paul George Part 2 next season. He has a PLAYER option for 2018-19, and can opt out after next season. Your logic, and trust me I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt even calling it that, only makes sense if Westbrook were on a Kyrie type deal, locked up over several seasons and trading him for a pick would piss off the fan base. Westbrook holds all the leverage here. If he tells the Thunder he's opting out and it's a certainty, are you suggesting the Thunder call his bluff and get NOTHING in return for him? That would really pump up the fan base. In fact, I'm calling it right now... if Russell Westbrook wants to be a Cav and help take down Durant and the Warriors, he can make it happen. All he does is demand a trade to Cleveland. Not sure of his no trade clause rights but even if the Thunder could trade him anywhere they wanted like the Pacers did George, whose presenting a better deal than the Brooklyn lotto pick? NOBODY. THE Pacers received GARBAGE for Paul George and still did so because it's STILL better than nothing. You are asking for people to be realistic yet you are suggesting the Thunder let Westbrook leave for zilch. Ya you are a genius.

Westbrook just qualified for the DPE... just can't imagine him turning down that kind of money. My guess is that he's in OKC for at least another 2 seasons.

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