The Official Game of Thrones [A Song of Ice and Fire] Thread (includes spoilers)

[BooyaCS]

Beric is one bad ass dude. One of the coolest moments in the series was When they were about to get swarmed and he just get into his stance and his sword lights up. Fucking awesome.

The fellowship of the wight were badass. Jorah just sitting there with his butterfly swords calmly killing wights. The Hound with the warhammer, Tormund, Gimly, with his Axe...

 

[Urban]

Like the plan itself being ludicrous? An extraction mission more difficult than one that has ever been conceived.

Think ACisKING said it perfectly below. I hope if GRRM ever finishes the series, this "suicide squad" mission isn't included.

The plot to send a band of Avengers to kidnap a zombie from an army of zombies and white walkers, transport that zombie back to king's landing, convince Cersei Lannister of all people to partake in an armistice (when she could be wiped out quickly anyway), and then come back to the wall all before the white walkers and wights walk to the wall is straight up ludicrous. Nevermind that Jon who has his own army, wildlings, and nightswatchmen decides to go on this adventure himself instead of sending someone else...and then does so with six people plus extras, one of who is a freaking blacksmith, and five of whom he has never met and who have never been north of the wall. Nevermind that Jorah has spent multiple seasons doing everything from kidnapping Tyrion, voluntarily fighting in the pits, and finding a cure for an incurable disease just to be by Dany's side...only to then immediately volunteer to go on this mission. Nevermind that Tyrion, aka the most recognizable and wanted person in Westeros, would volunteer to go and set up a meeting with Jaime in King's Landing for the chance at setting up an armistice in the event that the Avengers crew successfully kidnaps a zombie that Tyrion doesn't even believe in...an armistice with Cersei Lannister of all people who Tyrion knows better than most is not going to give a shit.

 

[TyGuy]

The ending might have been memorable (ice dragon, Dany and Jon, etc.) but the journey to get there was some of the worst storytelling the show has ever done. At times I felt like I was watching a lesser show - or at the very least a different one. The plot to send a band of Avengers to kidnap a zombie from an army of zombies and white walkers, transport that zombie back to king's landing, convince Cersei Lannister of all people to partake in an armistice (when she could be wiped out quickly anyway), and then come back to the wall all before the white walkers and wights walk to the wall is straight up ludicrous. Nevermind that Jon who has his own army, wildlings, and nightswatchmen decides to go on this adventure himself instead of sending someone else...and then does so with six people plus extras, one of who is a freaking blacksmith, and five of whom he has never met and who have never been north of the wall. Nevermind that Jorah has spent multiple seasons doing everything from kidnapping Tyrion, voluntarily fighting in the pits, and finding a cure for an incurable disease just to be by Dany's side...only to then immediately volunteer to go on this mission. Nevermind that Tyrion, aka the most recognizable and wanted person in Westeros, would volunteer to go and set up a meeting with Jaime in King's Landing for the chance at setting up an armistice in the event that the Avengers crew successfully kidnaps a zombie that Tyrion doesn't even believe in...an armistice with Cersei Lannister of all people who Tyrion knows better than most is not going to give a shit.

And then let's talk about the Avengers mission itself. Jon kills a white walker and all of the surrounding wights die except for one that the Avengers squad can conveniently kidnap. Then when the squad is stuck in the ice, the white walkers don't throw anything at them despite the Night King apparently being an Olympic caliber javelin thrower who has a quarry of ice spears capable of killing dragons. The squad is also rescued by Westeros's first Uber ride courtesy of Dany's dragons in one of the most blatant deus ex machinas in television history. In the time that they are stuck on the ice, Gendry is able to run the distance it took the squad potentially days to march, a raven flies at the speed of light to Dragonstone, and then Daeneyrs arrives exactly as the wights finally start attacking. Speaking of which, why on Earth didn't they take ravens with them as the Nightswatch has done at other times when journeying north of the wall? But that was only the first deus ex machine, as Jon also requires Benjen to come out of nowhere to save him as well. It also strikes me that for such a horrendously stupid plan, only Thoros and a bunch of extras dying seems very un-Martin-like. The show and the books have always been about foolish plans getting punished, and I'm actually amazed that so many got away from that fight.

And somehow none of that is as bad as Arya versus Sansa. But this post is long enough and I'll save my gripes about that for now.

I missed this post but yeah. As soon as the idea was brought up with seriousness I thought it was ludicrous. The suicide mission to end all suicide missions. It had like a -50% probability of being successful. Also, how did everybody know Gendry wast he fastest? Jon had just met him. What did they race off camera? The episode was exciting, but the plan made no sense and as you mentioned the dragon coming into save the day right on time was cliche.

 

[Urban]

I missed this post but yeah. As soon as the idea was brought up with seriousness I thought it was ludicrous. The suicide mission to end all suicide missions. It had like a -50% probability of being successful. Also, how did everybody know Gendry wast he fastest? Jon had just met him. What did they race off camera? The episode was exciting, but the plan made no sense and as you mentioned the dragon coming into save the day right on time was cliche.

Just an unnecessary detail that muddled things further and has viewers asking questions over something that should be inconsequential; just a bad line, whoever wrote it. I think we can safely assume he's faster than Berric, Thoros, The Hound, and Jorah. Leaves Tormund and Jon Snow. Brave Jon was never going to leave, and he's probably faster than Tormund as well just looking at their builds.

Would have rather seen Gendry stay and fight and see one of the randoms sent back to get the message, but I suppose we needed a few deaths during the battle scene.

 

[Nicky]

Question:

Can Bran warg into...... whites? Or more specifically a White Dragon? Is this at all possible/plausible?

Bran could warg into Hodor. Warging into another human being hadn't been done before, so he's the first. The original Three-eyed-Raven told him that he would never walk again, but he'd fly. So either he'll warg into Ice Viserion or Drogon.

Someone please tell me Ice Viserion breathes ice and ice spears.

So disgusted with the Arya/Sansa storyline. I've been annoyed with Sansa since day one. Arya is better than this shit script they gave her.

 

[Cavatt]

Bran could warg into Hodor. Warging into another human being hadn't been done before, so he's the first. The original Three-eyed-Raven told him that he would never walk again, but he'd fly. So either he'll warg into Ice Viserion or Drogon.

Someone please tell me Ice Viserion breathes ice and ice spears.

So disgusted with the Arya/Sansa storyline. I've been annoyed with Sansa since day one. Arya is better than this shit script they gave her.

I think Arya is playing Littlefinger. I might be wrong, but it would be so dumb for her to fall right into his hands. I think she is going to have Sansa plot and plan with him and then reveal he is already dead and has his face.

Also, it is really dumb that Bran can see everything and that suddenly makes him have 0 interest in changing anything. Real cop out to make him all mystical. the 3 eyed Raven seemed like a pragmatic guy.

 

[Chris]

Yeah, so now fans see why Thrones was at its best as a slow burn.

 

[Nicky]

I think Arya is playing Littlefinger. I might be wrong, but it would be so dumb for her to fall right into his hands. I think she is going to have Sansa plot and plan with him and then reveal he is already dead and has his face.

Also, it is really dumb that Bran can see everything and that suddenly makes him have 0 interest in changing anything. Real cop out to make him all mystical. the 3 eyed Raven seemed like a pragmatic guy.

If your theory isn't it, then I don't know how they can redeem that storyline. I've rooted for Arya since the very beginning and for her to fall into LittleFinger's trap is just beyond dumb.

So, Brienne is at Winterfell right? She's on her way to King's Landing. Why would Sansa want her protector to leave if she's so terrified of Arya? Maybe I missed something, but the scene really didn't make sense to me. But I was half paying attention. Why did she give Sansa catspaw?

 

[Urban]

If your theory isn't it, then I don't know how they can redeem that storyline. I've rooted for Arya since the very beginning and for her to fall into LittleFinger's trap is just beyond dumb.

So, Brienne is at Winterfell right? She's on her way to King's Landing. Why would Sansa want her protector to leave if she's so terrified of Arya? Maybe I missed something, but the scene really didn't make sense to me. But I was half paying attention. Why did she give Sansa catspaw?

Brienne is also Arya's protector; in fact, Arya's only ally in Winterfell should things escalate to the next level.

 

[Nicky]

Brienne is also Arya's protector; in fact, Arya's only ally in Winterfell should things escalate to the next level.

I understand that Arya is more for Winterfell than Sansa. Brienne is sworn to protect them both, but if Arya is a threat, then Brienne would have to protect Sansa from that threat. Isn't that what Sansa and LittleFinger were talking about?

 

[The Voice]

I'll buy that the walkers had those massive chains and a SCUBA crew to pull out Viserion, but you have to introduce the fact that there's a Lowe's in the Frostfangs at some point earlier in the show.

It's not unreasonable to think they got those from hardhome. Those chains could have been used to pull in boats.

WHERE THE EFF ARE YOU AT, BRAN?? Guy has all the answers and he's just sulking by his weirwood. Why do you have the knowledge if you're not going to help out. YOUR FAMILY IS FALLING APART! *Tommy Wiseau voice* Step the eff up, man.

is he bran anymore though?


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[Cavatt]

I understand that Arya is more for Winterfell than Sansa. Brienne is sworn to protect them both, but if Arya is a threat, then Brienne would have to protect Sansa from that threat. Isn't that what Sansa and LittleFinger were talking about?

Brienne is protecting Arya too, so if Sansa and Littlefinger want to move against her, they have to send Brienne away. Otherwise they won't get away with it. Sansa has basically decided she is going to kill her sister.

She has been stabbed in the guts before, so at least she is hard to kill.

 

[Ohio]

Yeah, so now fans see why Thrones was at its best as a slow burn.

I don't know about that. Somewhere in between slow burn and this hyper speed traveling would be ideal, though.

 

[Nicky]

It's not unreasonable to think they got those from hardhome. Those chains could have been used to pull in boats.



is he bran anymore though?


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Bran isn't Bran. He remembers what it was like to be Brandon Stark, be he's more the 3 eyed Raven than anything else. He know beyond Bran and that makes him less human because he is so detached by all of this horrible knowledge.

 

[Chris]

I don't know about that. Somewhere in between slow burn and this hyper speed traveling would be ideal, though.

Id call every season prior to 6 a slowburn for most part.