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Does someone have a good link they recommend that explains single payer system, vs what ACA is, vs what we had prior, etc?

I'd like to educate myself a bit more on that.

**EDIT**

I'll just add before someone else posts it, I have google.com already, thanks. :p
 
Does someone have a good link they recommend that explains single payer system, vs what ACA is, vs what we had prior, etc?

I'd like to educate myself a bit more on that.

**EDIT**

I'll just add before someone else posts it, I have google.com already, thanks. :p

I don't know of any links that would compare the ACA vs single-payer in a comprehensive way... Although I am very familiar with how both systems would work.. Do you have any specific questions?
 
Update your resumes children.

 
Does someone have a good link they recommend that explains single payer system, vs what ACA is, vs what we had prior, etc?

I'd like to educate myself a bit more on that.

**EDIT**

I'll just add before someone else posts it, I have google.com already, thanks. :p

http://www.pnhp.org/facts/what-is-single-payer
http://www.pnhp.org/sites/default/files/A Superior System - 2013.pdf

The first link is a short article by a doctor's group advocating Single Payer.
The second is a direct link to a chart from the article. It compares ObamaCare and Single Payer

I guess I need to state a disclaimer saying that any assertions or opinions in these links are not mine.
 
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How long until this gets deleted?

Percentages are hard.

 
How long until this gets deleted?

Percentages are hard.

trump university must've had some stellar math classes

edit: honestly, would it be surprising if it doesn't get deleted? this admin intentionally lies to manipulate naive folks and give fuel to those that blindly parrot party rhetoric. just more of the same.
 
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How long until this gets deleted?

Percentages are hard.


Depends how you frame it. The correct number was 10.3. The prediction of 23 million was an error of more than 100%.

What's kind of funny about this is that more attention is paid to the math than to the horrible overestimate itself.
 
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Shit -- you mean people actually have to pay for something they want?


Depends how you frame it. The correct number was 10.3. The prediction of 23 million was an error of more than 100%.

What's kind of funny about this is that more attention is paid to the math than to the horrible overestimate itself.

And no attention will be paid to the sabotaging conservatives have attempted since it was passed to make sure those numbers weren't higher.
 
Update your resumes children.


@AZ_ LOL !!!!!

Here is what i noticed about the nature of your posts - just my opinion. If our opinions are matching, your sarcastic posts are super funny, If our opinions don't match i feel like kicking you between the legs for your sarcasm. You have a very interesting sense of humor !!!!
 
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Depends how you frame it. The correct number was 10.3. The prediction of 23 million was an error of more than 100%.

What's kind of funny about this is that more attention is paid to the math than to the horrible overestimate itself.
Are we gonna ignore that Congress has refused to address issues, make modification or do anything other than cut funding to programs that were intended to establishing markets.

Congress blocked funding for shortfall funding that resulted in taking small insurers out of the equation.

The supreme court ruled that the subsidy incentives for state exchanges were to be applied to the federal exchange as well.

Congress did nothing to address this ruling that killed essentially killed the state exchanges.


Meanwhile e did see multiple states thrive with their own state exhanges yet those prgrams have been ignored by congress.


Also the government has blocked multiple mergers that would make these exhanges more viable for these companies.. which is fine but they failed to do anything about what wwas creating the need for the exchanges in the first place..


Quite a few states turned down expanding medical coverage that would of been completely covered and funded by the government.

If anything the ACA has shown why the states in general would be horrible at managing their own medicare plans as the states had been advocating for well before the ACA was introduced.


Meanwhile the healthcare industry is seeing a big boom as wel as the insurance carriers because of the Medicaid expansion to the point Insurers were willing to give exchanges a shot and take initial losses. However Congress and now congress and the White house ae doing everything they can to make it not viable.


Whats hilarious is that people like @The Human Q-Tip who is all about state power and the states managing their programs reject a program designed to empower states . Every step the republican congress has taken since the ACA has passed has been to drive states away from making their own exhanges and plans and put everyone on the federal plans.


this is continued with the alternative legislation they are trying to push forward. A plan that results in less coverage and more federal control over fund and less power to the states
 
The supreme court ruled that the subsidy incentives for state exchanges were to be applied to the federal exchange as well.

Congress did nothing to address this ruling that killed essentially killed the state exchanges.

W.T.F.

This has to be a troll job. It has to be. No thinking person could string those two sentences together and believe they'd presented anything remotely approaching coherency.

I'm not taking the bait anymore -- it's just gotten too ridiculous. It's bad enough having to fight through the non-existent structure of your posts. But fighting through that for something like...this?

I'm done.
 
Update your resumes children.

Someone should have told her the 22 million that are that are "losing coverage" aren't losing it. They're going to opt out after Obama tried to force them to spend thousands on a service they don't want.

In before Huber "FAKENOOZE////"
and how many times have I been right with no response after a 2 minute google search?


@AZ_ LOL !!!!!

Here is what i noticed about the nature of your posts - just my opinion. If our opinions are matching, your sarcastic posts are super funny, If our opinions don't match i feel like kicking you between the legs for your sarcasm. You have a very interesting sense of humor !!!!
To who?
 

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