Yeah I watched that shit and I liked it.
I don’t know how to do the hidden spoiler thing on my phone so I will wait a few days then jump in. Not like anyone else is watching anyway.
I thought it was pretty good as well. I still am bugged by the weirdness of Negan still being alive, but the show is better than it has been the past few seasons.
The whole Whisperers thing still doesn't make sense to me, simply because growing/gathering enough food, wood, water, etc., should be a full-time job at this point. The incredible waste of time it would be to wander around with a bunch of zombies, walking slowly, etc., just seems immensely impractical.
Of course, growing enough food for all the people living inside the walls of the Hilltop should require a fuck of a lot more ground than they have inside the walls, so I guess the whole "sustenance" thing gets kind of stretched anyway.
I think they survive by overrunning other people, and then stealing from them. They tend to be a rather unfriendly lot. Also, Negan is still alive in the comics.
I know Negan is still alive in the comics. It just doesn't make much sense to spare that one potentially very dangerous guy after you had no problem killing so many others. Again, I get it -- plot device. I can actually accept that one better than a group of people who managed to stay alive while shuffling like zombies for a bunch of the time.
But aren't we supposed to be 8 or so years into the zombie apocalypse by this point? By that time, scavenging for food would be pretty much a dead end, and any groups of survivors likely wouldn't have huge stockpiles of food to be raided -- they'd be living pretty much hand to mouth for much of the year.
Also, it's hard to overrun someone when you're limited to a zombie slow walk. Seems like fleeing from them would be a pretty viable option. And if the zombie horde tramples the crops, that wouldn't seem to help the Whisperers very much.
I mean, I get that it's a fictional plot device that we're supposed to overlook. It's just that the show itself made growing food, etc., a key plot element, and emphasized how difficult it was. So to have the Whisperers trying to survive while walking everywhere at a slow zombie shuffle doesn't make much sense even in the world of the Walking Dead.
I know Negan is still alive in the comics. It just doesn't make much sense to spare that one potentially very dangerous guy after you had no problem killing so many others. Again, I get it -- plot device. I can actually accept that one better than a group of people who managed to stay alive while shuffling like zombies for a bunch of the time.
I don’t consider the whisperers’ food situation to be a plot hole at all. There’s too many plausible explanations that could exist: they figured their scheme out early and got all of the canned food, they can go house to house and take shit in suburbs or cities, they can have a base where they grow food, etc. Good enough for me.
Canned food has a shelf life, though. If we're five or six years after the apocalypse started, most of that shit is bad by now.
I don’t consider the whisperers’ food situation to be a plot hole at all. There’s too many plausible explanations that could exist: they figured their scheme out early and got all of the canned food, they can go house to house and take shit in suburbs or cities, they can have a base where they grow food, etc. Good enough for me.
Virtually all of the canned food would have been gone in the first month. Most cities and areas have less than two week's supply without deliveries. In major cities, it's less than a week's. In fact, it would have been the loss of food shipments that would have caused things to break down.
Whatver small caches would have made it past the first month or two would amount to a rare can here or there.
Even if not....Figure 3 cans of food (mostly very low calorie canned vegetables so 3 cans is probably very low) per person, per day. That's more than 1000 cans per person, per year. 8000 cans since the apocalypse began kust to feed one person.
You'd have to grow/gather/hunt 95% of it before the first two years. And the Whisperers can't do the growing because they're supposedly on the move.
Holy hell, that was unexpectedly and painfully bad. I just want that annoying kid and that girl to die horrible deaths quickly. Pretty apparent that won't happen, though.
There was far too much posturing/moralizing/lecturing/emoting in this episode all around. I actually fast forwarded through chunks.
Henry sucks. Hope he bites it in the fight with the whisperers but I doubt it'll happen. Lydia is actually interesting and needs a bit more time to get fleshed out in the show.
In the comics, it's Carl and Lydia having these interactions and it's 150% better. Biggest mistake the show has made killing Carl off, especially with Rick gone now. Judith is cool, but she's a bit too fanservicey for me.