Also downloaded Warframe at the constant urging of one of my friends who has been neglecting TF2 for that cyborg ninja game and...it's actually quite fun. I had always thought Warframe was a competitive shooter, and I really only have time for one of those in my life (TF2, obviously). I didn't realize that it was basically Destiny, and that PVE was a huge and majority part of the experience. In fact, playing it, it actually appears that Bungie borrowed a lot of ideas from it, or perhaps Warframe adapted to borrow elements from Destiny over time. Warframe came out a year before, but I'm really not sure how much it has changed since day one since I just now started playing it. Still, it's basically F2P Destiny with cyborg ninjas, which surprised me. All I know is that I've got a bow and arrow with a 40% damage mod and I am stealthily tearing through levels destroying everything in my path. The game looks pretty good too, especially for a game that came out in 2013. Likely they've updated the visuals a bit over time, but still. I've only played it for a couple of hours, but it's been enjoyable thus far, and I've had my buddy explaining all the intricacies to me, which has been helpful since there's a lot to take in. --- I don't know...it's just hard for me to see a melee-only game as worth sixty bucks, especially since past games of a similar style (War of the Roses, Chivalry) launched at much lower price points. For Honor is certainly prettier than those games, but graphics alone do not justify a price tag. I will say that it runs very well, which in this age of shoddy PC ports was refreshing. My computer is by no means a beast by modern standards, and the game defaulted to Extreme (the second-highest graphical setting) and rarely dropped below 40 fps (seemed to average closer to sixty most of the time, although it dipped a bit when a lot was going on). That may not be good enough for @TyGuy, but it works for me. And for the record, I probably wouldn't have noticed the frame rate dips, but the game displays your frame rate at the top left, presumably for beta purposes, so I actually paid attention to it.