This might well be the end, and it truly would suck. But, it was all worth it!

[FrontPageNews]

Did you notice who’s not in the picture?

mike longabardi, you’d have the pan the camera down a couple feet to get a glimpse of the elf.

 

[godfather]

Maybe I'm just a greedy man. And don't get me wrong, I'm grateful for that title.

But honestly? It's kinda disappointing we just got one ring out of it. When Miami got two with LB in just 4 years.

I know, I know, the fucking Warriors blowing up to be this good and the Durant thing kinda fucked us.

But let's be honest, we did a lot of grave digging ourselves.

You have LeBron James, in the prime of his career, playing some of the best basketball anyone has ever played.

That right there means you can always be in the race of winning it all, if you just don't self destruct. Unfortunately, we did, but at least we got a title out of it.

Something we can always cherish. Just sad the gravy train is over though.

 

[benchplayer]

The past few years Vegas had the Cavs as always the clear favorite as to where Lebron would resign each year. Now today Vegas has the Lakers and 76ers the favorites as to where Lebron will sign. Cleveland is the 7th team at +7000. So that means if you were to wager or bet $100 that Lebron would resign with Cleveland and he did, you would win $7,000 on a $100.00. Somebody knows something, and it certainly doesn't look good at all for the Cavs. Sorry to say

Meh Vegas bets flip-flop, I bet they didn't see lebron leaving miami and coming home in the first place. That said if we land P.G all that will change

 

[The Red Viper]

Maybe I'm just a greedy man. And don't get me wrong, I'm grateful for that title.

But honestly? It's kinda disappointing we just got one ring out of it. When Miami got two with LB in just 4 years.

I know, I know, the fucking Warriors blowing up to be this good and the Durant thing kinda fucked us.

But let's be honest, we did a lot of grave digging ourselves.

You have LeBron James, in the prime of his career, playing some of the best basketball anyone has ever played.

That right there means you can always be in the race of winning it all, if you just don't self destruct. Unfortunately, we did, but at least we got a title out of it.

Something we can always cherish. Just sad the gravy train is over though.

Dan Wetzel had an article for Yahoo Sports.

Mentioned some hard hitting stuff, some harsh but lot of truth as well. Was a brutal read!

"CLEVELAND – The Cleveland Cavaliers rode LeBron James to the 2016 NBA championship, and when you represent a city that hadn’t won squat since 1964, well, yeah, that counts for a lot.

So, they’ll always have that, at least. They’ll always have LeBron’s block and Kyrie Irving’s three and a parade that saw all of Northeast Ohio turn out.

And that’s about all they’ll have.

Around here they label their sporting failures with brief descriptions, so they can be summoned and cursed quickly. The Drive. The Fumble. The Shot.

Maybe the greatest disaster in Cleveland sports history, though, is this one:- The Incompetence.

The Cavs drafted LeBron James in 2003, and all these years later it seems all they’ll have to show for it is one NBA title.

One."

https://sports.yahoo.com/cavaliers-lebron-james-era-can-summed-two-words-incompetence-062632731.html

11 Years of the greatest basketball player ever. And, just one NBA title. Its sad!

 

[godfather]

Dan Wetzel had an article for Yahoo Sports.

Mentioned some hard hitting stuff, some harsh but lot of truth as well. Was a brutal read!

"CLEVELAND – The Cleveland Cavaliers rode LeBron James to the 2016 NBA championship, and when you represent a city that hadn’t won squat since 1964, well, yeah, that counts for a lot.

So, they’ll always have that, at least. They’ll always have LeBron’s block and Kyrie Irving’s three and a parade that saw all of Northeast Ohio turn out.

And that’s about all they’ll have.

Around here they label their sporting failures with brief descriptions, so they can be summoned and cursed quickly. The Drive. The Fumble. The Shot.

Maybe the greatest disaster in Cleveland sports history, though, is this one:- The Incompetence.

The Cavs drafted LeBron James in 2003, and all these years later it seems all they’ll have to show for it is one NBA title.

One."

https://sports.yahoo.com/cavaliers-lebron-james-era-can-summed-two-words-incompetence-062632731.html

11 Years of the greatest basketball player ever. And, just one NBA title. Its sad!

Jordan gave his franchise 6, Duncan 5, Kobe 5, Magic 5, Bird 3.

These are considered some of the greatest of all-time.

LB just one. And it's because we seemingly did everything in our power to inhibit it.

The constant bombings in the draft. The misuse of assets we gain, the franchise never showing any patience ever, and always cashing in NOW, and it at times just completely backfired.

This is why we're only in this position of winning at all, because of honest luck, than anything truly good the franchise has done itself.

This franchise is not cursed, they're the opposite. They're really fucking lucky, but still can't get out of their own way in fucking the lots of luck they've been granted.

We only have ourselves to blame. The organization to be honest. No woe me shit.

They put us in this position we're in now more than anything else that happen.

Sure the Durant shit sucks, but that was bad luck for A LOT of teams, not just us.

 

[chuck0609]

I agree he was good at managing egos and I wanted him back too. It was reported he wanted more power and the way he talks on podcasts he sees himself as a Pop or Pat Riley type. He compares himself as the stability of those two. We don't know what exactly he asked for in terms of power but if you look at Pop and Riley they have full control of the organization and you rarely hear anything from the owner.

I know some people want Gilbert to step back and just let a guy like Griff run all the decision making which I get from a basketball perspective. The thing is the reason Gilbert is willing to go into the luxury tax and foot such a expensive roster is he feel he is part of the decision making process. Take that away and maybe Gilbert isn't such a generous owner.

The love for Griffin on this board is way overblown. Under him the Cavs regressed defensively, threw up on themselves in the Blatt debacle, blew threw precious assets and were “gentlemen” swept by GS.
Let’s not act like he was a genius- in fact he’s more to blame for this situation than Altman or Gilbert (the man who spends at will).

 

[jvpertz]

Monday morning quarterback....

Cavs aren’t sitting on four titles because kyrie and got hurt...

And Durant joined a 73 win team. Some of you guys are gluttons for punishment....

 

[southsiderwp]

i still don't see why the lakers are so high. i'd say he has a better shot of winning a title with a retooled cavs team than going to LA with PG, unless they bring someone else with them

I may be in the minority, but Lebron, George, and the rest of the young lakers (Ingram, Kouzma, and Ball) would be a pretty nice team. It’s also crazy to think we almost had George on the team this year, and if that happened there is no way both Lebron and George would’ve left cleveland to sign in LA

 

[jvpertz]

I may be in the minority, but Lebron, George, and the rest of the young lakers (Ingram, Kouzma, and Ball) would be a pretty nice team. It’s also crazy to think we almost had George on the team this year, and if that happened there is no way both Lebron and George would’ve left cleveland to sign in LA

Lakers young core is trash.

One homeless mans Kevin durant

One homeless man Jason Kidd

And maybe the next Jamal mashburn in Julius randle.

It’s not an interesting collection of talent.

I’d rather have the Cavs crappy core that includes the 8th pick.

 

[LeBro]

But honestly? It's kinda disappointing we just got one ring out of it. When Miami got two with LB in just 4 years.

Honestly, I'm the complete opposite.

Over the years, I've come to a conclusion: winning titles in sports is overrated. Seriously. Basically, your team wins a title, you're really excited about for a few days, maybe weeks, but then it's just back to normal. Before long, you're thinking about next year, offseason plans, waiting for the season to start -- stuff like that. As a fan, it's not like my life is appreciably improved if my team wins a title or not. It's basically temporary bragging rights. Big deal.

What's not overrated is deep playoffs runs. We've been very fortunate these past 4 years, because we've tons of bonus basketball. Throughout the entire playoff run, our team was there for us to tune in. In between games, it gave us something to talk about. Upcoming games were something to look forward to, hell, even schedule my life around. When your team is eliminated, you aren't afforded those those luxuries.

I hate to use this cliche, but it's about the journey, not the destination. The Cavs lost Game 1 of the Finals. That was frustrating. However, at least it was competitive. For 3 hours that night, I was glued to my TV and couldn't look away. It was exhilarating, it was suspenseful, it was basically as good as basketball gets. It sucks that we lost, but watching Lebron's 51 -- one of the all-time great Finals performances -- was still something I witnessed and will never forget.

Hypothetically, if I had to choose between:
a) making it to the Finals four years in a row, lead by one of the GOATs (and losing),
b) winning the Finals one year, but missing the playoffs the next three

I would probably take "a". "Flags fly forever" is silly. Every year a new team gets to claim they're the champion, but not every team gets to be lead by the GOAT.

 

[GreasySpread36]

Jordan gave his franchise 6, Duncan 5, Kobe 5, Magic 5, Bird 3.

These are considered some of the greatest of all-time.

LB just one. And it's because we seemingly did everything in our power to inhibit it.

The constant bombings in the draft. The misuse of assets we gain, the franchise never showing any patience ever, and always cashing in NOW, and it at times just completely backfired.

This is why we're only in this position of winning at all, because of honest luck, than anything truly good the franchise has done itself.

This franchise is not cursed, they're the opposite. They're really fucking lucky, but still can't get out of their own way in fucking the lots of luck they've been granted.

We only have ourselves to blame. The organization to be honest. No woe me shit.

They put us in this position we're in now more than anything else that happen.

Sure the Durant shit sucks, but that was bad luck for A LOT of teams, not just us.

Well, other than a few years in the late '80s and early '90s, this has never been a high-quality organization. It just hasn't been. And it's in one of the least attractive markets in the NBA. This has always been a tough place to win thanks to organizational ineptitude as well as factors outside of the organization's control. There have been a lot of years in which Cleveland has been the Siberia of the NBA, and probably will be again at some point.

Should we have won more titles with LeBron? Sure, especially these last four years. We should have won it in 2015. We should be 2-2 with those pricks in Oakland. On the other hand, we're the Cleveland Cavaliers and given the history and everything else, the fact that we even have one championship is a minor miracle. There are arguably better franchises- the Jazz, Pacers, Suns- that don't.

 

[JayDD1972]

Did you notice who’s not in the picture?

Mr Ty Lue.

 

[godfather]

Monday morning quarterback....

Cavs aren’t sitting on four titles because kyrie and got hurt...

And Durant joined a 73 win team. Some of you guys are gluttons for punishment....

Bro, we were given three number one draft picks in 4 years fuckin' years, after LeBron left!

The first year two of them were in the top-4!

That's never happen before!

We had ever opportunity to knock it out of the fucking park, have a super team for LB to come back to. And pile on championship after championship, and we blew it!

Don't gimme the Durant joining a 73 win team thing. You know how they became a 73 win team?

By not being a fuck up of an organization, and bombing draft after draft.


No franchise has EVER won the lottery 3 times in 4 years. And if they did, you know almost majority of them would have?

Multiple titles, especially if the GREATEST player by far in this generation was coming back.

You guys are funny to not see how laughable it is that we've been given so much, and gotten so little out of it.

Like I said, nothing but luck, literally, is how we've gotten this far. We've fucked up so many times and it's cost us in the end.

 

[jvpertz]

Maybe I'm just a greedy man. And don't get me wrong, I'm grateful for that title.

But honestly? It's kinda disappointing we just got one ring out of it. When Miami got two with LB in just 4 years.

I know, I know, the fucking Warriors blowing up to be this good and the Durant thing kinda fucked us.

But let's be honest, we did a lot of grave digging ourselves.

You have LeBron James, in the prime of his career, playing some of the best basketball anyone has ever played.

That right there means you can always be in the race of winning it all, if you just don't self destruct. Unfortunately, we did, but at least we got a title out of it.

Something we can always cherish. Just sad the gravy train is over though.

Kyrie and love don’t get hurt in 2015-we take the title.

The warriors don’t get the cap space to turn Harrison Barnes in to Kevin Durant... we take the title even with kyrie demanding a trade and not being on the 18 team.

It just is what it is. The curse is over. A million nba fans would chop their right arm to watch their team win one title.. enjoy it.

 

[godfather]

Kyrie and love don’t get hurt in 2015-we take the title.

The warriors don’t get the cap space to turn Harrison Barnes in to Kevin Durant... we take the title even with kyrie demanding a trade and not being on the 18 team.

It just is what it is. The curse is over. A million nba fans would chop their right arm to watch their team win one title.. enjoy it.

If the Cavs didn't bomb on their drafts so bad, the Warriors super team next exists.

Durant probably never even goes there.

We're looking an entire domino effect. If just drafted Leonard or Klay, and still did everything else bad. We'd be in an entirely different situation right now.

Bombing on draft day over and over, when you have high picks, comes back to haunt you.

Like I said, we only have ourselves to blame for this. Say what you want about the Warriors, and I hate them. But they show you what position you can be in if you do shit right via draft.

We did shit so bad, and it cost us. Everything. LeBron, multiple titles, a dynasty, everything.