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Likely the moment they signed TT (for crazy money), Moz was toast. Why would they spend big bucks extending him when they have payroll/cap issues everywhere.

Again, in the latter stages of the playoffs he would primarily be glued to the bench. If not all of the playoffs.

If nothing else the fact that he is a free agent and hardly playing makes him expendable.
 
I'm not suggesting we do this, but if we sent them Moz and the Haywood exception we could get PJ and Chandler. Chandler isn't the answer to anything, but he could play SOME minutes when we go big.

You can't do this - you can't use the exception on Chandler because his contract is bigger than the exception, and you can't trade Mozgov for Chandler because the salaries don't align.
 
No one in their right mind would trade for that insane Chandler contract so it won't matter.
 
Not possible. If he sucks in the playoffs, he wont play. If we trade him now, no chance in hell we get a player that makes a significant difference in the road to the finals.

I know what you mean. But don't we need a rim protector?
 
You can't do this - you can't use the exception on Chandler because his contract is bigger than the exception, and you can't trade Mozgov for Chandler because the salaries don't align.
Gotchya...thought that might be the case. I don't think its a good idea anyway.
 
I know what you mean. But don't we need a rim protector?
Mozgov still protects the rim. He just has been so shitty in other areas. Our best option is hoping Mozgov turns around. He doesn't have hardly any trade value at this point. He has shown flashes this season, I have not completely lost hope.
 
Mozgov still protects the rim. He just has been so shitty in other areas. Our best option is hoping Mozgov turns around. He doesn't have hardly any trade value at this point. He has shown flashes this season, I have not completely lost hope.

I wouldn't say he has no trade value or even a low value - It's not high, but a 7 footer with a decent defensive reputation around the league that can shoot it from 20 feet is always going to be valuable to teams.

And as much as he makes me cringe at times with his below average bball IQ, soft hands and needing work on his lower body strength/positioning, you don't trade him unless it's another trade that blows you out of the water.
 
I know this is not how it is supposed to work with professional basketball players. They should be able to catch and handle a basketball, but I get really pissed off when their teammates pass them the ball in positions that they damn well know they are not going to handle it. Happens sometimes with TT also. Sometimes it happens on critical possessions. Love did this to Mosgov last night and the predictable happened.
 
At some inevitable point, San Antonio or Golden State is going to try to beat us by going small. This is an undeniable fact. You shouldn't be surprised when they try it.


With the way the league is shaking up, I don't think Mozgov is good enough to be on the floor in the biggest moments of the game. Rather than block the shots at the rim, it's more valuable to have a 1st line of defense and don't even allow them to get to the rim. Mozgov's hands are shit, his confidence is fractured; he looks like a player who should be on the soulless Houston Rockets.



What the Cavaliers need the absolute most, is another swingman defender to back up LeBron James. Richard Jefferson should be our last option, if we could get a player like PJ Tucker, he could very well be on the floor in those deciding moments.

The Cavs won't even think about using Mozgov in the clutch. Especially not after this start to the season. He's just too fucking clumsy and not playing with enough passion.

I think it's more likely that we'll see more of the same from Mozgov than to think he's going to experience a miraculous comeback and be the player he was last year. I would bank on teams beating Cleveland with small-ball than bank on Mozgov turning Ben Wallace for a series.




When we inevitably play the Spurs or the Warriors, you are going to have to deal with Igoudala, Barnes, Draymond

Or the Spurs Leonard, Green, and Diaw.

If you know anything about these teams, it's that players like Diaw, Igoudals and Draymond can kill you with their versatility, especially passing.

We really need another player to do the "dirty work" and allow LeBron to guard a lesser player. Iman Shumpert is that kind of player, but he's not big enough to guard Diaw or Draymond.

You can't reasonably expect LeBron to do everything he does offensively, rebound and assist at a high level and then also ask Bron to guard Iggy AND Draymond.


Tucker would be a fucking god-send! David Griffin has contacts in Phoenix, and their situation is really bad. Their owner is notoriously cheap, and they happen to have something we need really fucking bad. I think the snaggle will be re-routing Tyson Chandler who Phoenix now inevitably wants to rid themselves of, but he's 34 and paid for 3.5 more seasons.
Tucker would be a hell of an addition
 
Our number one priority is to get a solid rim protector who can finish around the rim and maybe hit an open midrange, and not a back up to Lebron & Shump.

I'v said it once and I'll say it again, were not winning a championship with the Love/T.T frontcourt.
we'll probably get to the Finals again with this lineup just by pure talent combined with great effort,
but we will loose to SAS/Warriors in a 7 game series with T.T and Love starting at the 4 and 5,
it will not be pretty and they will abuse us and exploit that over and over again.

no rim protection = no championship, its just that simple.
 
Our number one priority is to get a solid rim protector who can finish around the rim and maybe hit an open midrange, and not a back up to Lebron & Shump.

I'v said it once and I'll say it again, were not winning a championship with the Love/T.T frontcourt.
we'll probably get to the Finals again with this lineup just by pure talent combined with great effort,
but we will loose to SAS/Warriors in a 7 game series with T.T and Love starting at the 4 and 5,
it will not be pretty and they will abuse us and exploit that over and over again.

no rim protection = no championship, its just that simple.

You know in today's NBA im not sure you need some monster rim protector to win a title anymore. I think the game has become more uptempo and playing good defense in a team type philosophy. I think TT/Mozgov have done a decent job of interior defense and there isnt really a realistic target other then Tyson Chandler out there.

I think the Cavs should be trying to somewhat copy what Miami did in 12-13. They won with great perimeter defense and Bosh/Birdman were just slightly above average rim protectors. I think what the Cavs are missing is a Shane Battier type who can play small but also hold his own against PFs. When Love is struggling with his shot you can just plug him in and they can spot up on offense while doing the dirty work on defense that Love can't.
 
Our number one priority is to get a solid rim protector who can finish around the rim and maybe hit an open midrange, and not a back up to Lebron & Shump.

I'v said it once and I'll say it again, were not winning a championship with the Love/T.T frontcourt.
we'll probably get to the Finals again with this lineup just by pure talent combined with great effort,
but we will loose to SAS/Warriors in a 7 game series with T.T and Love starting at the 4 and 5,
it will not be pretty and they will abuse us and exploit that over and over again.

no rim protection = no championship, its just that simple.

Moz might be that rim protector. He can't finish around the rim, however.

I personally think starting TT is not the way to go moving forward.
 
You know in today's NBA im not sure you need some monster rim protector to win a title anymore.

That's obvious. The GSW just did it.

Warriors have Bogut and Green, both top 15 in rim protection, two of the best rim protectors in the nba.
so even if they go small they have green down there, who's not only a good rim protector but also a great perimeter defender.

Spurs have Tim Duncan who's an unbelievable rim protector, especially in the playoffs. they also had Tiago Splitter back when they won the chip... Miami had Birdman who was just a phenomenal rim protector, and a great finisher at the basket.

You need great rim protection to win titles, that will never change, small ball or not. if you can't stop people at the rim you will not win. please show me one championship team in recent memory who didn't have a great rim protector.
 
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But they didn't use Bogut in the finals, at all.
 

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