Tristan Thompson

[sleepmaster]

I think whitesides on paper is a better fit with love... I also think he may bring more back in a trade next year than TT will. I would not include Clarkson though. If we move hill, we will be riding a rook with 2 d league back ups..

I am not for bringing a cancer, so if he is that , then nix it.. but if you think he views it as opportunity, I think it's better than TT..

Whiteside could increase Love's trade value. I'm all for it.

 

[BrutX15]

It all makes sense now with Waiters being rumored in as well... Kyrie will then sign in FA of 2019 for the reunion, and just to rub it in LeBron's face.

 

[Mavaliersfan]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVM-IOpHvvU


I know it's basically a pick-up game, but I just saw about 7 or 8 plays TT couldn't make a day in his life at the YMCA.

Looks like he's been working on his range as well.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

People are overthinking this.
TT has few basketball skills. Few skills that are shown consistently at least. Whiteside at best, goes way beyond TT's skill level. At worst, he is on par with TT. Neither is positive as far as team chemistry goes.
But Whiteside certainly can give us a different look offensively and defensively.
I would make this deal 7 days a week.
But I would like them to sweeten the deal if they want Korver.

Whiteside is more skilled offensively than TT. The problem is that he thinks he is better offensively than he actually is, and so takes shots he shouldn't, and demands even more touches.

Defensively, he is better at protection the paint than is TT. But he has worse lateral movement, and is worse at contesting g perimeter shots.

All else being equal, I 'd still rather have him than TT. But all else isn't equal, and the Heat apparently want us to toss in other assets while taking back a chucking moron like Dion.

 

[stowfan]

Whiteside is more skilled offensively than TT. The problem is that he thinks he is better offensively than he actually is, and so takes shots he shouldn't, and demands even more touches.

Defensively, he is better at protection the paint than is TT. But he has worse lateral movement, and is worse at contesting g perimeter shots.

All else being equal, I 'd still rather have him than TT. But all else isn't equal, and the Heat apparently want us to toss in other assets while taking back a chucking moron like Dion.

Clarkson is a better player, a better teammate, and has a much better contract. Personally I would love to have Whiteside in the middle instead of TT but not at the cost the Heat are asking. Again, I would forget the whole thing.

 

[czvo]

You know how people have posted that TT is a problem in the locker room because he's dating a Kardashian and injuries slowed him down? Well, Hassan is an ACTUAL locker room cancer.

Hard pass.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Clarkson is a better player, a better teammate, and has a much better contract. Personally I love to have Whiteside in the middle instead of TT but not at the cost the Heat are asking. Again, I would forget the whole thing.

You could trade TT and JR for Whiteside and a scrub like MacGruder. Trade works, but I don't think the Heat do it.

 

[stowfan]

You could trade TT and JR for Whiteside and a scrub like MacGruder. Trade works, but I don't think the Heat do it.

That would border on robbery. lol

 

[Nathan S]

Say hypothetically you could trade TT for a better player on the same contract, JR for a better player on the same contract, and Clarkson for a better player on the same contract. But you know that if you do so, Lue will start all three new guys (along with Hill and Love) and Sexton/Cedi/Zizic will play only 15-20 minutes per game off the bench. Do you make the trades?

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

Say hypothetically you could trade TT for a better player on the same contract, JR for a better player on the same contract, and Clarkson for a better player on the same contract. But you know that if you do so, Lue will start all three new guys (along with Hill and Love) and Sexton/Cedi/Zizic will play only 15-20 minutes per game off the bench. Do you make the trades?

No -- and that concerns me as well. I have zero faith that he'll play young players over veterans. Also, he came flat-out and said there was a "special bond" between he and the 2016 championship guys, so I have zero faith that TT and JR won't get minutes they don't deserve. He'd rather play them than younger guys who inevitably have growing pains as they develop.

 

[czvo]

I guess I have no evidence to base this on, but I would imagine Lue will be coaching far differently now that the team won't be competing for championships.

When you're trying to win a championship, you're natural inclination is going to be to stick with what you know, particularly when those players came through in big moments. And that faith was largely rewarded in TT, to be fair.

We'll see, I guess.

 

[stowfan]

I don't put a lot of importance on how the line up starts off with our present players. Even if they are not a part of the Cav's future, they have to be showcased to make worthwhile, maximum value trades. What the starting line up looks like after the trade deadline is a different story.

As far as targets to trade for, the Cavs need depth everywhere. Let's hope our young guys can earn starting spots and can win games playing together. I don't think we can worry about binging in better talent.

 

[Cavatt]

I don't put a lot of importance on how the line up starts off with our present players. Even if they are not a part of the Cav's future, they have to be showcased to make worthwhile, maximum value trades. What the starting line up looks like after the trade deadline is a different story.

As far as targets to trade for, the Cavs need depth everywhere. Let's hope our young guys can earn starting spots and can win games playing together. I don't think we can worry about binging in better talent.

yeah but bringing in guys who are marginally better than your young guys is silly and will hurt the younger dude's development. Stopgaps aren't needed

 

[Futuredome]

I guess I have no evidence to base this on, but I would imagine Lue will be coaching far differently now that the team won't be competing for championships.

When you're trying to win a championship, you're natural inclination is going to be to stick with what you know, particularly when those players came through in big moments. And that faith was largely rewarded in TT, to be fair.

We'll see, I guess.

Not another TT humper. TT wasn't worth the time.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

I guess I have no evidence to base this on, but I would imagine Lue will be coaching far differently now that the team won't be competing for championships.

When you're trying to win a championship, you're natural inclination is going to be to stick with what you know, particularly when those players came through in big moments. And that faith was largely rewarded in TT, to be fair.

I could perhaps buy that (well, not really, but I'll go with that for now) if the coach reverted to sketchy veterans only in the playoffs, because that's where the "big moments" are. Pressure is on, it's a big stage, so you revert to your veterans. Even the crappy ones. Okay, fine.

But in the Cavs regular season, where the games supposedly don't matter and you're not actually competing for a championship, he preferred to give all those minutes to slacking veterans anyway. When there was no pressure at all, and his veterans didn't need those minutes to get ready for the playoffs. And that includes Jeff Green, who wasn't someone who had proven himself a reliable vet in the playoffs, and was brand new to the team.

The most logical explanation for that is that he gave the minutes to those veterans simply because they wanted to play, even in the games that really didn't matter very much. It was like a union seniority system.