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Tyronn Lue has been fired

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anyone get the impression Lue doesn't want LBJ back? wants to take over the teamand not have to cater to LBJ
 
anyone get the impression Lue doesn't want LBJ back? wants to take over the teamand not have to cater to LBJ

I'm not sure that's entirely the case, but I think Lue is interested in actually building a team and not just a LeBron and Friends group. If LeBron wants to be part of that then great.

It seems like the coaching staff and the front office has no intention of adding a ton of old vets. I could see them supplementing, but I think they are more interested in doing that through the MLE (Koby basically said they will use it) and possibly using their expiring contracts to take on vets that may also give them assets to build younger as well.

In Lue's defense, he's been held captive from the beginning. This team has been a delicate balancing act and so interested in keeping LeBron happy. But it seems they've turned the corner and are saying they want LeBron, but they also want to craft a real team identity as well. If LeBron wants to be a part of that, they want him. If not, that's his choice.
 
If LeBron doesn’t come back you’re getting a different Ty Lue...

The mission will be different, the style will be different and the coaching will be different..

My preference would be for a new voice just because you’re still gonna have enough left over vets on this team— but I think you’re gonna get a new Lue...
 
If LeBron doesn’t come back you’re getting a different Ty Lue...

The mission will be different, the style will be different and the coaching will be different..

My preference would be for a new voice just because you’re still gonna have enough left over vets on this team— but I think you’re gonna get a new Lue...
Are we going to get the Tyronn Lue that didn't play Kyle Korver because the Celtics didn't play Semi Ojeleye?

Because if so, I don't want that guy either.
 
Are we going to get the Tyronn Lue that didn't play Kyle Korver because the Celtics didn't play Semi Ojeleye?

Because if so, I don't want that guy either.
Ty saw something !! Kyle Korver had already checked out.... See June!
 
If LeBron stays I think we do bring in a new coach.

If LeBron leaves I think Gilbert grins and bears it even though it’s brutal for development. I think Gilbert will give him 1 year before moving on to a coach known for development while Lue drives the tank.....which sucks....but there’s so much money tied in him.

I don’t think Lue is here next year with LeBron though. I really don’t. I just hope we get to find out.

We know Koby/Gilbert do have an open line of communication to LeBrons camp. Which means what they say, basically goes. I still think Jay Wright is a dark horse candidate if LeBron stays. His rebuild at Nova is intense, his stature among NBA players has never been higher, and he runs in an NBA style system from X’s and O’s to player management.

But maybe I’m fucking crazy......
 
I come here neither to bury Lue nor to praise him.

Popovich is the gold standard when it comes to NBA coaches yet he somehow alienated a top 3 player into wanting to leave well ahead of a potential super max contract.

Here we have Lebron who may or may not leave. But if he does leave it won't be because of the pariah (Ty Lue).

I find it an interesting disconnect between what the fans perceive as a good NBA coach versus what some of the marquis players value.
 
I find it an interesting disconnect between what the fans perceive as a good NBA coach versus what some of the marquis players value.

Of course there's a disconnect -- we don't place the same value on the same things.

Fans value -- almost exclusively -- how well the team performs over the course of a season. Individual players value their personal happiness/fulfillment on a day to day basis. There's some overlap there, but there are differences as well. A coach who caters to a particular player's desires/whims, defers to that player, show them extra levels of respect or deference to their preferences, etc., is more likely to be preferred by that player.

Fans don't give a shit about any of that.
 
Of course there's a disconnect -- we don't place the same value on the same things.

Fans value -- almost exclusively -- how well the team performs over the course of a season. Individual players value their personal happiness/fulfillment on a day to day basis. There's some overlap there, but there are differences as well. A coach who caters to a particular player's desires/whims, defers to that player, show them extra levels of respect or deference to their preferences, etc., is more likely to be preferred by that player.

Fans don't give a shit about any of that.
What you say is true. But there's more to it than that. Players have to coexist with the coaching staff on a day to day basis and they are as much in the loop as anyone. Fans have virtually no personal interaction with either and they have no first hand info other than what they are fed by media.

I'm sure there's a myriad of other contrasts as well.
 
I don't see how they fire Lue and still have him doing all this summer league stuff. I can only see him getting fired now if they have a bad start. Yuck!
 

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