Farewell Kyle Korver

[buzzdog]

I agree. I think our coaching turned us down more than our roster to be honest. I just cant understand how we are so reliant on Lebron and how we can have an offense that turns the ball over so much considering some of the great ball handlers we had on our roster last year.

On the erratic occasions when we did commit to running ball movement offense we looked unstoppable. For whatever reason we never sustained any cohesive or consistent offensive system, especially when defenses challenged us and the going got a little rough. For this I blame Lue and Lebron and Kyrie, between them our tendency was to be over reliant on the simpler ISOs and P&R schemes. I think a lot of it boiled down to a lack of trust in everyone not named Lebron or Kyrie.

Lue and Lebron need to be the drivers behind committing to more team oriented concepts with a little less reliance solely on Lebron and Kyrie creating with the ball in their hands. That doesn't mean we abandon that, it just means we develop ways to play when they sit.

Both Lebron and Kyrie were at times extremely careless with the ball when it mattered most. Most of our egregious losses were the result of boneheaded turnovers by our key players. Lebron basically apologized on way too many occasions for his sloppy turnovers. Lebron and Kyrie are so good they sometimes get complacent in their passing and ball handling especially when defenses stiffen and game plan to have active hands.

When Lebron is properly focused he is the most efficient player in the league. This needs to become the primary focus and Lebron needs to promote it and lead it. Offensive efficiency and ball security would have made us a much tougher out against the Warriors.

 

[texascavsfan]

On the erratic occasions when we did commit to running ball movement offense we looked unstoppable. For whatever reason we never sustained any cohesive or consistent offensive system, especially when defenses challenged us and the going got a little rough. For this I blame Lue and Lebron and Kyrie, between them our tendency was to be over reliant on the simpler ISOs and P&R schemes. I think a lot of it boiled down to a lack of trust in everyone not named Lebron or Kyrie.

Lue and Lebron need to be the drivers behind committing to more team oriented concepts with a little less reliance solely on Lebron and Kyrie creating with the ball in their hands. That doesn't mean we abandon that, it just means we develop ways to play when they sit.

Both Lebron and Kyrie were at times extremely careless with the ball when it mattered most. Most of our egregious losses were the result of boneheaded turnovers by our key players. Lebron basically apologized on way too many occasions for his sloppy turnovers. Lebron and Kyrie are so good they sometimes get complacent in their passing and ball handling especially when defenses stiffen and game plan to have active hands.

When Lebron is properly focused he is the most efficient player in the league. This needs to become the primary focus and Lebron needs to promote it and lead it. Offensive efficiency and ball security would have made us a much tougher out against the Warriors.

I think I've pretty much convinced myself that I'll be yelling "move the ball and play some fucking defense" as much/more than last season....

 

[ACisKING]

The entire goal of this offseason IMO is to find a way for LBJ to rest and not lose leads and games in the process.
The best fix that's possible is Melo on a buyout- he takes LBJ's spot while he's resting.

Melo will definitely help with that. But I just don't see him getting bought out this season. Maybe next season. But worse comes to worse, if the Knicks really want to get rid of him, we'd still be better off accepting scraps and expiring contracts from a team like Houston than just paying him to play for Cleveland.

 

[inliner311]

Melo will definitely help with that. But I just don't see him getting bought out this season. Maybe next season. But worse comes to worse, if the Knicks really want to get rid of him, we'd still be better off accepting scraps and expiring contracts from a team like Houston than just paying him to play for Cleveland.

The scrapes and expiring that the Cavs have are almost more appealing than what Houston have. Houston will have to find a player that fills most of their 10 million TPE to pair with Ariza and their expires for a Melo deal. What will they have to give up to get that contract is the big question and will they be willing to add more assets to a Melo deal.

Other options are to trade Eric Gordon or Ryan Anderson who are on long term contracts. Anderson isn't on a cheap contract and could look worse as he ages. Eric Gordon is on a good number but only if he is healthy, I'm not sure you can count on that with his injury history.

If we can flip Shump or Frye for another expiring and asset. Cedi plus whatever asset we get should be just as good as whatever Houston will offer.

 

[Soar]

View: https://twitter.com/cavs/status/885293604083814401

 

[MirORich]

Korver alluded to something in his post media availability yesterday:

He was asked about how it felt to be here with a training camp and full season ahead vs. getting added at midseason last year at a time when due to injuries and few off days, they hardly got to practice beyond walk-throughs.

He talked about a few things but one stood out. When talking about ball movement in the half court he said that at times last year they would have just one guy running and weaving all over(usually him) and everyone standing around. Explained that motion requires and intricate web of all the guys moving at the same time to create creases in the defense.

I think what went on last year happened for two reasons:

1. lack of practice time due to injuries and the schedule past January

2. players settled into the reality of top of the key iso ball.

With Korver here all year, JR healthy, Crowder/Wade/Rose here, I am hopeful that we see some sets were everyone is moving(much in the way the Hawks did during Korvers best years or the Spurs do)

I'm not blaming it on Kyrie but I think there were times were players just felt resigned to the fact that Kyrie(and LeBron) would sometimes predetermine when they were going to straight up ISO and drive regardless of what was going on around them and because of that, the other guys just didn't move as much as the play called for or as they might have if they had stronger believe the ball would move.

 

[Douglar]

Good thing Kyle Kover got out some of those misses last night. No need to waste them makes in the preseason I guess.

 

[FrontPageNews]

Old man needs a few games to get his legs under him.

 

[2016_was_awesome]

It’s like this old man forgot how to play basketball.

 

[Alec]

The law of averages will work this out. Korver could run around the half-court and shoot threes until he’s 50.

 

[CHIMOCHIS]

Haven’t watched him

He’s got to make up for that miss in the finals. We ain’t forget Kyle you owe us one

 

[CleveRocks]

As I recall he was slow to dial it in last year as well. Point guards will learn how to set him up and he will start draining those 3's

 

[Alec]

Thoughts on Korver after the first game? Even though he was abused defensively his gravity cannot be understated. There’s always a defender glued to him on the perimeter.

 

[iWx]

Thoughts on Korver after the first game? Even though he was abused defensively his gravity cannot be understated. There’s always a defender glued to him on the perimeter.

I blame coaching on the defense. If you don't want to take him out then at least send him some help.

 

[gaitano]

If Kyle Korver has 7 minutes and 0 FGA either he is the equivalent of a hunting duck decoy or else something has gone seriously wrong.