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That title should be used to steal a good coach from a team by giving them a higher title. We could have gotten a good ST coach and given them the AHC title instead of getting someone who was already available.
 
That title should be used to steal a good coach from a team by giving them a higher title. We could have gotten a good ST coach and given them the AHC title instead of getting someone who was already available.

If they did, you’d have probably made the same comment without knowing who they were either.

Even if you had any idea who those people were, you could make the argument that some people view Kitchens as a coordinator in waiting and came from the Bruce Arians tree.

That literally is what you’re describing.

But you can’t give me one good reason to not hire the guy...


On Kitchens switching to RB coach, Arians said:

“It’s natural for Freddie to take over another position and expand his resume because he’ll be a coordinator soon.”
 
If they did, you’d have probably made the same comment without knowing who they were either.

Even if you had any idea who those people were, you could make the argument that some people view Kitchens as a coordinator in waiting and came from the Bruce Arians tree.

That literally is what you’re describing.

But you can’t give me one good reason to not hire the guy...


On Kitchens switching to RB coach, Arians said:

“It’s natural for Freddie to take over another position and expand his resume because he’ll be a coordinator soon.”

Why are you getting so sensitive about this? I at no point said kitchens wasn’t good. Just that that title should be used to steal someone away from another team who’s under contract.

And are you seriously going to quote a coach? Every coach says good things about their assistants. It means nothing.
 
Why are you getting so sensitive about this? I at no point said kitchens wasn’t good. Just that that title should be used to steal someone away from another team who’s under contract.

That's literally what they did here, it appears.


Even if it wasn't, this is how you hire good coaches who have other opportunities without contracts.

To say nothing of the fact the Browns don't have many other openings.
 
Is there a reason Haley isnt official yet?
 
Right. I assume that was a decision forced on Hue, but maybe not.

In any case, Haley is a legit threat to replace Hue, so hopefully we'll go 0-4, Hue gets fired, and we reel off 12 straight.
I gave up trying to figure out what Haslam's strategy is or if he even has one a long time ago regarding Hue. When we disagreed about how inevitable Hue's firing was or if Hue would accept a strong OC I was just going by the actual words spoken by Haslam and Hue as well as some simple logic to form my opinion that Haslam was going to keep Hue around and make sure we added a play calling OC.

I never dreamed someone as experienced and established as Haley would be brought on board and agreed to by Hue. That pleasantly defies and exceeds any expectations I had.

Now I can only surmise that Dorsey and Haslam have sold Hue on the notion that he now must focus on being a true head coach only, he must delegate oversight on the details of the offense, etc., and he must show competence in the role as a true HC with the offense now being off his plate.

I have no idea if this is something Jackson can succeed at doing. To me he has no track record of success in this area so it's unexplored territory. I think it's a good thing that Jackson is stripped bare of any and all excuses he might have for failure from this point forward.
 
Alright, I've decided on the new OC I'd like the Browns to target. And I'm finally at the point where he's the guy until he laughs in the Browns faces and hangs up the phone.

Vikings assistant Kevin Stefanski. He is currently the QB coach, but has held multiple position coach jobs on the offensive staff for twelve years. He's the son of NBA front office staple Ed Stefanski. Minnesota doesn't usually go after free agents, they develop draft picks. Stefanski has played a role in that development, along with getting Case Keenum up to speed after unexpected injuries to Bridgewater and then Bradford.

If the Browns are targeting a successful QB or other position coach to become the OC, the best are working with the successful quarterbacks right now and getting ready for the playoffs. I believe - no confirmation - Zampese is earmarked as the next QB coach, but the same reason he'd be a bad fit as an OC is the same reason another fired retread from another struggling team isn't the right move. Get a young guy who has been successful. They can also retain former Vikings running backs coach Kirby Wilson to work with him.

DeFilippo is the hottest name among QB coaches, but keep an eye on Stefanski.

Look at your boy scouting out Stefanski a full year ago...
 
Look at your boy scouting out Stefanski a full year ago...
Quoting yourself. You’re better than that.

I tagged you when discussing him this morning giving you complete credit for bringing him to our attention a year ago.

Don’t think we don’t appreciate you.

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