What quick rebuild would you sell to LeBron?

[fasteddy]

If Lebron isnt here ,no one is coming here .They need to fire Lue his teams cannot defend a simple pick and roll.Buy out Kardashian and Smith .Trade Kevin Love to start .I would try top get Kemba and Dwight from Charlotte ,I know Howards contract is huge but he is 100 % better than Kardashian .

 

[MarkPriceFan]

So lets assume PG and Kawhi aren't happening. Can we do something like this and would this be enough for Lebron to want to stay:

Trade 1: Kemba/Batum for Tristan/Clarkson/Cedi
Jordan gets some young players and he is out from under Batum.

Trade 2: Demar Derozan for JR/Hill/#8
Toronto gets some expirings and #8 to begin their rebuild

PG: Kemba, Calderon
SG: Derozan, Batum
SF: Lebron, Hood
PF: Love, Green
C: Nance, Zizic

Again, you would need to hope for some decent vet minimums to fill in depth, but if we can resign Green and Hood, the depth is not terrible.

 

[needmorecowbell]

Full disclosure, I am very bad at evaluating trades and values so this might be crap...

1st Trade - Kevin Love + Larry Nance for Jimmy Butler. Rumor has it Jimmy might not like Wiggins and he might not like Minnesota. TWolves get a stretch big they desperately need and a prospect in Nance that Tibs could turn into Taj 2.0

2nd Trade - JR Smith + George Hill + #8 for Kemba Walker + Nic Batum. Charlotte gets a lottery pick and move away from the Batum contract. Cleveland gets solid PG and the overpaid Batum. Maybe Batum can prove to be useful playing alongside LeBron, at one point he was a solid player.

Match Rodney Hood - We just do not have a choice. He is the best option we have with the limited ways to go even further over the cap.

PG: Walker, Clarkson
SG: Hood, Korver
SF: Butler, Osman
PF: Lebron, Batum
C: TT, Zizic

Need to find some bargin bin FA that prove to be useful. Seems like a decent team on paper, the shooting concerns me. Lebron-Butler-TT front court might not shoot well enough from 3, and Hood-Clarkson have been inconsistent 3 point shooters at best.

 

[Mavaliersfan]

I'm going to take a realistic approach...

Trade JR Smith for Bazemore - straight-up

• ATL clears $16M of cap in 19'.
  
• Cavs upgrade their perimeter defense.

Trade Love for Kemba & Marvin Williams. This would likely require a 3rd team to take on Love. Phoenix?

CLE out: Love
CLE in: Kemba, Williams

PHX out: Chandler, Dudley (both expirings), #16 pick
PHX in: Love

CHA out: Kemba, Williams
CHA in: Chandler, Dudley, #16 pick

Draft WCJ or MPJ at #8

Sign Dedmon using vet min. Resign J. Green & Hood.

Kemba, Hill, Clarkson
Bazemore, Hood, Korver
James, Osman, MPJ
Williams, Nance, Green, WCJ
Dedmon, Tristan, Zizic

At the deadline you still have Hill's expiring to play with

 

[inliner311]

I'm going to take a realistic approach...

Trade JR Smith for Bazemore - straight-up

• ATL clears $16M of cap in 19'.
  
• Cavs upgrade their perimeter defense.

Trade Love for Kemba & Marvin Williams. This would likely require a 3rd team to take on Love. Phoenix?

CLE out: Love
CLE in: Kemba, Williams

PHX out: Chandler, Dudley (both expirings), #16 pick
PHX in: Love

CHA out: Kemba, Williams
CHA in: Chandler, Dudley, #16 pick

Draft WCJ or MPJ at #8

Sign Dedmon using vet min. Resign J. Green & Hood.

Kemba, Hill, Clarkson
Bazemore, Hood, Korver
James, Osman, MPJ
Williams, Nance, Green, WCJ
Dedmon, Tristan, Zizic

At the deadline you still have Hill's expiring to play with

I don't think Dedmon is going to sign for vet minimum. If he opts out he will be looking for more money than he is currently making. He is a stretch 5 and someone will pay him accordingly.

Denver could also be a landing spot for Love. Maybe they will trade Millsap plus a pick.

 

[billmac91]

I'm going to take a realistic approach...

Trade JR Smith for Bazemore - straight-up

• ATL clears $16M of cap in 19'.
  
• Cavs upgrade their perimeter defense.

Trade Love for Kemba & Marvin Williams. This would likely require a 3rd team to take on Love. Phoenix?

CLE out: Love
CLE in: Kemba, Williams

PHX out: Chandler, Dudley (both expirings), #16 pick
PHX in: Love

CHA out: Kemba, Williams
CHA in: Chandler, Dudley, #16 pick

Draft WCJ or MPJ at #8

Sign Dedmon using vet min. Resign J. Green & Hood.

Kemba, Hill, Clarkson
Bazemore, Hood, Korver
James, Osman, MPJ
Williams, Nance, Green, WCJ
Dedmon, Tristan, Zizic

At the deadline you still have Hill's expiring to play with

Charlotte has zero use for Kevin Love. They'd rather just keep Kemba in this scenario.

To sell LeBron on a quick rebuild, I think the first step is to prove we're willing to eat the salary necessary, which Dan has done in the past.

Whether you eat Chandler Parsons awful deal or Nicolas Batum's, to put together a rebuild, one of those guys ends up on our roster.

The tricky part is in dealing with Charlotte, they desperately want the #8 pick. Giving them expiring deals in JR and George Hill eases their luxury tax issues, but it's not enough to get Kemba. They're going to demand that #8 pick.

But let's just say CLE decided to move JR Smith, George Hill, and the #8 pick for Kemba and Batum (the salary matches on this trade and I think it's fair for both sides).

You've now got a core of:

Kemba
Batum
LeBron
Love
Nance/TT

Which is already a HUGE upgrade over what we finished the season with. Is that enough to keep LeBron? I doubt it....

So now your assets are Love, Cedi, Nance, Korver, and 2021 1st rd pick. Now you're looking for a trade partner that would value Love and be willing to sacrifice with an athletic wing to make the Cavs intriguing enough for LeBron to stay.

I do think if Paul George forced OKC's hand (which I don't think he will do) there is fairness in a sign and trade where OKC gets back Love and Cedi for PG. Love actually fits in OKC's system pretty well theoetically next to Adams. And Rusty needs shooting aroun dhim at all times. And Cedi instantly becomes their starting 2 or 3, IMO, and brings the same type of game Roberson did with significantly better offense.

Unfortunately with Kawhi, he just doesn't have the same leverage PG does, since PG can walk for nothing from OKC should he choose to. I don't see the Spurs as realistic trade partners unless we package the #8 pick to SA, but I just don't see us having enough ammo to pry him away from the Spurs.

IMO, I think the Cavs should pull the trigger on a trade with Charlotte now, and then figure the rest out later. Prove to LeBron we're serious about improving this team, and then use Love, Cedi, and the 2021 1st rd pick to land that next piece. And maybe by some miracle, you can convince LeBron, even if we can't improve team beyond Kemba and Batum, the next year TT becomes a nice expiring deal, and the 2021 draft pick holds more currency. You'd hope Cedi would have more stature around the league as well, but who the fuck knows with how CLE develops their young players.

I still believe LeBron ends up in LA, but I feel like Dan should unload the chamber prior to the draft to show LeBron he's committed to winning long-term. Make LeBron really wrestle with the decision. One thing he won't get in LA (at least with the Lakers) is an owner willing to spend deep into the luxury tax.....comparatively speaking, the Busses are poor in relation to other NBA owners. They just can't afford to spend the way Dan does.

 

[ice cream man]

Other than TT and Clarkson we don’t have any significant guaranteed contracts going into the 2019-2020 season. If we shake up the team with some big trades and also get rid of them somehow, we could sell LeBron on being able to recruit a big time FA. LeBron would sign another 1 year deal and this coming season we’d have maybe Kemba and another very good-great player from trades. Also if I’m not mistaken Lue’s contract would be up at that time as well.

 

[Kiddo]

Charlotte has zero use for Kevin Love. They'd rather just keep Kemba in this scenario.

To sell LeBron on a quick rebuild, I think the first step is to prove we're willing to eat the salary necessary, which Dan has done in the past.

Whether you eat Chandler Parsons awful deal or Nicolas Batum's, to put together a rebuild, one of those guys ends up on our roster.

The tricky part is in dealing with Charlotte, they desperately want the #8 pick. Giving them expiring deals in JR and George Hill eases their luxury tax issues, but it's not enough to get Kemba. They're going to demand that #8 pick.

But let's just say CLE decided to move JR Smith, George Hill, and the #8 pick for Kemba and Batum (the salary matches on this trade and I think it's fair for both sides).

You've now got a core of:

Kemba
Batum
LeBron
Love
Nance/TT

Which is already a HUGE upgrade over what we finished the season with. Is that enough to keep LeBron? I doubt it....

So now your assets are Love, Cedi, Nance, Korver, and 2021 1st rd pick. Now you're looking for a trade partner that would value Love and be willing to sacrifice with an athletic wing to make the Cavs intriguing enough for LeBron to stay.

I do think if Paul George forced OKC's hand (which I don't think he will do) there is fairness in a sign and trade where OKC gets back Love and Cedi for PG. Love actually fits in OKC's system pretty well theoetically next to Adams. And Rusty needs shooting aroun dhim at all times. And Cedi instantly becomes their starting 2 or 3, IMO, and brings the same type of game Roberson did with significantly better offense.

Unfortunately with Kawhi, he just doesn't have the same leverage PG does, since PG can walk for nothing from OKC should he choose to. I don't see the Spurs as realistic trade partners unless we package the #8 pick to SA, but I just don't see us having enough ammo to pry him away from the Spurs.

IMO, I think the Cavs should pull the trigger on a trade with Charlotte now, and then figure the rest out later. Prove to LeBron we're serious about improving this team, and then use Love, Cedi, and the 2021 1st rd pick to land that next piece. And maybe by some miracle, you can convince LeBron, even if we can't improve team beyond Kemba and Batum, the next year TT becomes a nice expiring deal, and the 2021 draft pick holds more currency. You'd hope Cedi would have more stature around the league as well, but who the fuck knows with how CLE develops their young players.

I still believe LeBron ends up in LA, but I feel like Dan should unload the chamber prior to the draft to show LeBron he's committed to winning long-term. Make LeBron really wrestle with the decision. One thing he won't get in LA (at least with the Lakers) is an owner willing to spend deep into the luxury tax.....comparatively speaking, the Busses are poor in relation to other NBA owners. They just can't afford to spend the way Dan does.

No chance i'm giving up the #8 pick if we're taking back Batum's contract. Maybe, just maybe if they give us back their lottery pick. So you believe Lebron ends up in LA yet you would still unload the chamber beforehand just to show Lebron? That's interesting. If you could swing a deal with the Hornets without giving up #8 or getting #11 back i could get on board. Then trade #11 and fillers to the Thunder for PG. If PG is leaving he can do that without a trade, no sense in trading them Love and Cedi.

Walker/JC
PG/Hood
Lebron/Cedi/
Love/Batum
Zizic/Nance

I think these moves would keep Lebron here but not sure how possible they are.