WWE/NXT/AEW/NJPW Thread

[Derek]

Now that the episode has aired, let's talk about your new NXT Champion, Tommaso Ciampa

 

[JDailey23]

Just signed up for the network again. Love going back and watching some of the great matches and moments from my childhood but unfortunately that only makes the current product that much more depressing. What the hell went wrong?

PG era.
Don’t want to push the envelope are far as language and violence.
When was the last time you saw blood on TV, last time you saw a real hardcore match. You see 3/4 segments with women every show. It’s to PC nowadays.
You have Breezango or whatever their name portraying gay guys basically.
Balor pushing the equality button.
Nia Jax and the bullying thing.
All boring and stupid for a “sports entertainment” show.
A 3hr show has about 20 minutes worth of good wrestling. The rest is a shitty sitcom that repeats the same storyline/angle for 3/4 months at a time.
I watch raw on Tuesdays after work and it takes about 25 minutes to run through it all.

 

[Derek]

You don't need blood, or bad language to make an entertaining wrestling show. NXT is proof of that.

Quite simply, there's no real competition, and the people calling the shots on Raw/Smackdown suck at their jobs.

 

[DirtyDan]

PG era.
Don’t want to push the envelope are far as language and violence.
When was the last time you saw blood on TV, last time you saw a real hardcore match. You see 3/4 segments with women every show. It’s to PC nowadays.
You have Breezango or whatever their name portraying gay guys basically.
Balor pushing the equality button.
Nia Jax and the bullying thing.
All boring and stupid for a “sports entertainment” show.
A 3hr show has about 20 minutes worth of good wrestling. The rest is a shitty sitcom that repeats the same storyline/angle for 3/4 months at a time.
I watch raw on Tuesdays after work and it takes about 25 minutes to run through it all.

I'm with you on them running the same angles for months. Braun Strowman has been facing Kevin Owens in some capacity since Owens joined Raw. Whether it be random ass tag team matches, scheming against Strowman in MitB, or the current shitty angle. They kick the shit out of a dead horse then kick it some more

 

[Jack Brickman]

You don't need blood, or bad language to make an entertaining wrestling show. NXT is proof of that.

Quite simply, there's no real competition, and the people calling the shots on Raw/Smackdown suck at their jobs.

Exactly. NXT is fundamentally no different from Raw and Smackdown. It has a very similar presentation and similar values (limited swearing, no blading, etc.). However, what NXT does is hire talented wrestlers, allow them to be themselves, book them sensibly, and deliver with the in-ring product. That's why NXT is awesome and WWE sucks. It has nothing to do with PG and everything to do with the fact that the main roster is just an entire creative team trying to book to the whims of an out-of-touch old man who hates wrestling.

 

[Jack Brickman]

By the way, you guys should check out Impact's Slammiversary PPV. It was awesome. Only one bad match on the whole card, and it was an inoffensive two-star match.

Pentagon/Callihan was a violent, hard-hitting train wreck of a match. Exactly what you'd expect from those two.

Aries/Moose was fantastic.

The fatal four way with Johnny Impact and Phoenix was great as well, if a little clumsy at times (probably due to Rich Swann being replaced at the last minute due to injury).

Dreamer/Edwards was fun and violent.

Blanchard/Allie was the type of women's match you never see on the main roster...two women working like they hated each other and just stiffing the fuck out of each other.

Cage/Sydal was really good, as you'd expect from those two. It fell short of great, but that's fine on a card where you had about four great matches.

Finally, the tag title street fight was awesome. It had almost no down time and was just constant action.

All in all, just a great show and totally worth watching. I think I'm officially ditching main roster WWE for Impact.

 

[Real Deal]

RIP Grandmaster Sexy aka Jerry Lawler's son, their last storyline on TV seems pretty shitty now.

Allegedly, he hung himself while in jail.

Too Cool was pretty good to my childhood.

 

[Jack Brickman]

RIP Grandmaster Sexy aka Jerry Lawler's son, their last storyline on TV seems pretty shitty now.

Allegedly, he hung himself while in jail.

Too Cool was pretty good to my childhood.

Real shame he never was able to get it together. Loved Too Cool back in the day.

 

[Real Deal]

Real shame he never was able to get it together. Loved Too Cool back in the day.

Supposedly he was in solitary confinement for 30 days, I mean anybody would be on suicide watch in that situation. Man... The family should get a lawyer and look into this one maybe.

 

[Real Deal]

Hogan has been teasing Hollywood and nWo a lot lately including in Cleveland at an convention, he says something really big is happening and 10/27 we'll find out.

Any idea?

 

[Jack Brickman]

Hogan has been teasing Hollywood and nWo a lot lately including in Cleveland at an convention, he says something really big is happening and 10/27 we'll find out.

Any idea?

Maybe an nWo Table for Three on the Network with Hogan, Hall, and Nash?

Would be interesting if they put together a new generation of the nWo with the older guys functioning in like a mentor/manager role, too. Should just make it the Undisputed Era if they go that route, because those guys are already doing the nWo gimmick more or less and killing it.

 

[Real Deal]

Maybe an nWo Table for Three on the Network with Hogan, Hall, and Nash?

Would be interesting if they put together a new generation of the nWo with the older guys functioning in like a mentor/manager role, too. Should just make it the Undisputed Era if they go that route, because those guys are already doing the nWo gimmick more or less and killing it.

I was waiting for a table of 3, but im thinking it's way bigger than that. I kinda hope they dig back into that story and recreate it while breaking rules

 

[Jack Brickman]

I was waiting for a table of 3, but im thinking it's way bigger than that. I kinda hope they dig back into that story and recreate it while breaking rules

Only issue is that I have absolutely zero faith in WWE creative to do anything well at this point. Unless it's Triple H's guys in charge and he has full autonomy, it's probably gonna suck regardless just like almost everything else on the main roster.

 

[Jack Brickman]

By the way, I saw some stupid blurb about the WWE celebrating Friendship Day and it reminded me of what I consider to be the funniest thing I've seen in wrestling since I started watching it again four or five years ago...

"It's art! You don't need pants!"

 

[Jack Brickman]

Omega/Pentagon is likely to be announced for the All In show.