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WWE/NXT/LU/NJPW - The Road to Wrestlemania, and Takeover: New Orleans

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Best Wrestling PPV I've seen besides NXT in a long time. I learned quite a bit of new names but the booking was pretty good. Jericho going all heel on the crowd is excellent, that's when he's at his best. He's one wrestler that consistently re-invents himself and it works.

Then you have Jon Moxely setting his mark at the end. That was good shit.
 
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It was fine. Nothing about it was overly amazing, but it was good enough. The post Rhodes promo was extremely good, and MJF is extremely good on the mic. Also, I'm a huge Jimmy Havoc mark so seeing him in a big spotlight was so good.

None of the matches blew me away, though. The Joshi one was the best of the night because AJA but nothing really stood out. It was a solid PPV to start a promotion off of, but no TV for 6 months or whatever is such a downer.

The bad was obvious. The Cody thing with the HHH throne...nah, that was some serious Wrestle Crap right there. Stop taking shots at WWE, it's hokey, it's dumb, and they aren't even close to being able to "compete" with them. The production was really, really bad, and the commentary outside of Excaliber was fucking awful. JR is way past his prime and Marvez is an empty suit.

It was a solid B of a show.
 

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You watch Dustin Rhodes put on a match like that and you just have to wonder how he was a worthless lower card guy in WWE. Like, they literally couldn't find anything for that guy to do?
 

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That Taker/Goldberg match was awful to watch. They're lucky to be alive and well and not slurping soup through a straw.

Goldberg took a very bad tombstone right on the noggin. Taker took a suplex not as bad right on the noggin.

Taker's post match facial expression wasn't very good neither.

It's fun seeing old legends go at it, but that match wasn't easy on the stomach if you understand botches and such.
 

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The Dark Side of Wrestling documentaries are really enjoyable. I've been on a mini binge of them.

The Bruiser Brody one was heart breaking. Fuck Carlos Colon and WWE for honoring a guy who was an obvious accessory to murder.

Side note: Luke Harper looks identical to Brody. WWE really missed the boat with a toned down, modern Bruiser Brody gimmick
 

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The Dark Side of Wrestling documentaries are really enjoyable. I've been on a mini binge of them.

The Bruiser Brody one was heart breaking. Fuck Carlos Colon and WWE for honoring a guy who was an obvious accessory to murder.

Side note: Luke Harper looks identical to Brody. WWE really missed the boat with a toned down, modern Bruiser Brody gimmick
What they're doing, or I guess not, is a travesty. Harper is a damn good athlete and wrestler and he's nowhere to be seen.
 

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Yeah, I saw the Brody one this weekend. Never realized how well spoken Bruiser was in real life. My only issue is that I don’t know how reliable Tony Atlas was. Maybe I’m misreading him, but he comes across as someone who would seek attention by adding details to put himself more in the spotlight.

With that being said, their is no doubt in my mind that Colon murdered Bruiser Brody in cold blood, and not self defense. First of, the story was originally a fan attacked Brody, but then changed (most likely because too many witnesses saw Brody and Colon go into the shower together. Second, why did Colon happen to have a knife when he met with Brody (and of course the knife was never recovered).

Dude got away with murder and Vince McMahon punished him by allowing Colon to be inducted into the WWE HOF.

The Dark Side of Wrestling documentaries are really enjoyable. I've been on a mini binge of them.

The Bruiser Brody one was heart breaking. Fuck Carlos Colon and WWE for honoring a guy who was an obvious accessory to murder.

Side note: Luke Harper looks identical to Brody. WWE really missed the boat with a toned down, modern Bruiser Brody gimmick
 

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Yeah, I saw the Brody one this weekend. Never realized how well spoken Bruiser was in real life. My only issue is that I don’t know how reliable Tony Atlas was. Maybe I’m misreading him, but he comes across as someone who would seek attention by adding details to put himself more in the spotlight.

With that being said, their is no doubt in my mind that Colon murdered Bruiser Brody in cold blood, and not self defense. First of, the story was originally a fan attacked Brody, but then changed (most likely because too many witnesses saw Brody and Colon go into the shower together. Second, why did Colon happen to have a knife when he met with Brody (and of course the knife was never recovered).

Dude got away with murder and Vince McMahon punished him by allowing Colon to be inducted into the WWE HOF.
Carlos Colon Sr. wasn't the guy who did the actual stabbing for what it's worth.

José González aka Invader 1 was the one who did the actual murder. Carlos Colon Sr. helped covered it up/allowed it to happen/helped González get away scot free, but he didn't do the actual stabbing.
 

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Yeah, I saw the Brody one this weekend. Never realized how well spoken Bruiser was in real life. My only issue is that I don’t know how reliable Tony Atlas was. Maybe I’m misreading him, but he comes across as someone who would seek attention by adding details to put himself more in the spotlight.

With that being said, their is no doubt in my mind that Colon murdered Bruiser Brody in cold blood, and not self defense. First of, the story was originally a fan attacked Brody, but then changed (most likely because too many witnesses saw Brody and Colon go into the shower together. Second, why did Colon happen to have a knife when he met with Brody (and of course the knife was never recovered).

Dude got away with murder and Vince McMahon punished him by allowing Colon to be inducted into the WWE HOF.
It was Gonzaléz who stabbed Brody in the shower, based off Atlas' story and what transpired after it seems like Colón aided in the cover up. Colón let Gonzalez work for him after the attack and pushed him to the top of the card too. I think he worked that very show after stabbing Brody.

It's heavily assumed Colón had influenced the court decision and law enforcement because of him being the owner of WWC.

I don't know much about Tony, but Mantel corroborates some of the story in the lockerroom. The rest of his story takes place after him and Brody leave to the hospital. They all saw Gonzaléz, Colón, and the other owner have a meeting before the stabbing, Atlas watched Brody and Gonzaléz enter the shower. I guess Atlas wouldn't be able to tell if it's self-defense, but tbh if you're bringing a knife into a room with one other person that you don't like, it's obvious what Gonzaléz was trying to do.

It's sad but I don't think Brody's family will ever have closure, especially his son. The WWE didn't have to honor a POS like Colón but did it anyway like Colón didn't have to let Invader 1 work for him and then make him into a top guy after murdering a man.

Edit: Here's a link to the documentary if anyone's interested
View: https://youtu.be/9x_9ECbVZnE
 
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Yeah, I saw the Brody one this weekend. Never realized how well spoken Bruiser was in real life. My only issue is that I don’t know how reliable Tony Atlas was. Maybe I’m misreading him, but he comes across as someone who would seek attention by adding details to put himself more in the spotlight.

With that being said, their is no doubt in my mind that Colon murdered Bruiser Brody in cold blood, and not self defense. First of, the story was originally a fan attacked Brody, but then changed (most likely because too many witnesses saw Brody and Colon go into the shower together. Second, why did Colon happen to have a knife when he met with Brody (and of course the knife was never recovered).

Dude got away with murder and Vince McMahon punished him by allowing Colon to be inducted into the WWE HOF.
I didn't watch the doc, so excuse me if new information has been presented, but I'm under the impression that Jose Gonzalez (Invader 1) killed Bruiser Brody under the guise of self-defense.
 

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The other thing about these documentaries is discovering who Vince Russo and Jim Cornette are.

I was born in '97, a couple months before the attitude era so I have some catching up to do :chuckle:

It's fun listening to Cornette shoot and especially about how big of a fuckup Vince Russo was/is. Russo sounds like a guy McMahon would irrationally love

It makes sense now why TNA was so abysmal despite having a really solid roster. When the guy running creative is basically anti-wrestling then it's no wonder the product went to garbage. If only the WWE could feel the effects of having a guy who is anti-wrestling being the one in charge of creative like TNA did.
 
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Carlos Colon Sr. wasn't the guy who did the actual stabbing for what it's worth.

José González aka Invader 1 was the one who did the actual murder. Carlos Colon Sr. helped covered it up/allowed it to happen/helped González get away scot free, but he didn't do the actual stabbing.
My bad. I got confused since they were both pieces of garbage.
 

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If you guys like lucha-style wrestling, check out the match between Will Ospreay and Dragon Lee from last weekend's NJPW Dominion show. Holy shit is it ridiculously good. Ospreay is an incredible athlete.

The Ishii/Taichi match is great too if you enjoy strong style.

About to watch the Ibushi/Naito match, which is apparently pretty brutal.

Edit: It is.



Jesus.
 
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