2011 NBA Finals Thread

Theres nothing to say that hasnt been said already

That was fucking awesome. Dirk and the Mavs are everything that I like in pro sports, Bron and el Homos........not so much

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Words can't describe how fucking awesome and hilarious it is that Mark Cuban is in this picture. God, what a fucking boss. Him and Danny G are the only owners that really get it.

Man, LeBron's name coming up in trade discussions will definitely hurt, no, destroy his already ailing ego.



EDIT(off-topic): Do you guys also realize that if Splasha "the Serbian Assassin" Pavlovic held out a little longer he woulda been a part of the Dallas Mavericks championship squad?! Shyte!

People need to stop (or not) get their hopes up that Miami breaks up the Big 3. I pretty much see no chance of this happening. It would be Pat Riley admitting he made a mistake (which the jury on that is still out, it has only been one year).

ButterMPancakes said:

LeBron and Bosh for prime Kevin Garnett and young Shaq makes sense too.

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I'd hate to derail the thread but I'd like to ask you a question Butters.

What's the word on Dwight Howard? Is the team confident in keeping him? Or, if not - what type of trade (who) would fans like you deem equal?

Gimme Some Mo said:

People need to stop (or not) get their hopes up that Miami breaks up the Big 3. I pretty much see no chance of this happening. It would be Pat Riley admitting he made a mistake (which the jury on that is still out, it has only been one year).

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Agreed. There's no way they do it - not now at least - UNLESS its' for this guy:

Dwight Howard reaffirmed his desire to stay with the Magic, but told NBA.com on Monday that he will definitely become a free agent rather than sign an extension in the next year and also left open the possibility he would reconsider his future in Orlando if the team does not win the title next season.

Speaking during a break at the adidas Eurocamp as part of a tour of the continent for the shoe company, Howard joked with reporters at a news conference and appeared in good spirits.

In a one-on-one interview afterward, though, he made it clear he is not happy with the collective personality of Orlando's roster and that changes need to be made. The same message, he said, was delivered to owner Rich DeVos and CEO Bob Vander Weide in a meeting last week that included Howard sharing thoughts on everything from personnel to fan involvement and arena atmosphere at home games.

"I want to win a championship," the All-Star center said. "I think the owners have to really know that. That's been my goal and my mission since I've been in the NBA -- to win a championship. I don't have side goals or agendas. My main goal is to win a championship. I want to have 14 other guys who feel the same way."

Asked if the Magic have that now, he said, "It's off and on. Sometimes guys are there whole-heartedly and then sometimes I've had teammates allow people getting in their ears and things like that effect the way that they play and approach the game."

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Sorry BMP, but barring a miracle he's gone. Sad, too, because it seems he really wants to stay in the city itself....but he puts winning first (which is obv good/right) and ORL is probably the worst opportunity available for that.
http://www.nba.com/2011/news/06/13/dwight-howard-free-agency-future/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt2

[video=youtube;15tSDz2c6pA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15tSDz2c6pA&feature=player_embedded[/video]

FEELS SO GOOOD

but he did show alot more heart than the other 2 "stars"

I see no problem with Bosh crying after they lost. You want athletes to give a damn. That's the thing with LeBron - I feel like he checks the stat sheet and his shoe sales before checking the standings.

Nom said:

I see no problem with Bosh crying after they lost. You want athletes to give a damn. That's the thing with LeBron - I feel like he checks the stat sheet and his shoe sales before checking the standings.

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No one sees a problem with it. It's glorious.

#6 sounds like such an ass. The Cavs organization did such a great job hiding his personality while he was here...

Rich said:

Fact is, he talked about how he wanted to "chill" while the coach wanted them to work.

Fact is, he whined like a bitch after a guy dove on the floor for a ball and bumped into him.

Good lord, Bosh gives on decent presser and people around here acting like he's some sort of likeable guy.

Also, to others who are talking about Miami trading LBJ...why? I mean, it's awesome they lost, but it's year 1 and they just went to the Finals. You don't blow that up that quickly. That's ignorant. Give it at least SOME time.

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More than a decent presser....

He played pretty well this postseason after some people questioning him.

Even in the Boston series where his scoring numbers were down, his rebounding numbers were up...

I said nothing about him being "likeable"....

I did say it appears he is the polar opposite of Wade and LeFraud...and I said he played well....which he did.

Deshawn Steven's shirt last night: Hey LeBron, how's my Dirk taste

Triumph36 said:

Agreed. There's no way they do it - not now at least - UNLESS its' for this guy:



Sorry BMP, but barring a miracle he's gone. Sad, too, because it seems he really wants to stay in the city itself....but he puts winning first (which is obv good/right) and ORL is probably the worst opportunity available for that.
http://www.nba.com/2011/news/06/13/dwight-howard-free-agency-future/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt2

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Not sure why you're saying sorry. . . I've said it thousands of times I'd expect him to if they don't make the team better/clear cap space. Only thing is they're not going to trade him for LeBron/Gasol-Bynum-Odom like people fantasize about.

Lionheart said:

I'd hate to derail the thread but I'd like to ask you a question Butters.

What's the word on Dwight Howard? Is the team confident in keeping him? Or, if not - what type of trade (who) would fans like you deem equal?

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Honestly can't say what's going to happen until the off-season really starts. If the team goes after over the hill vets in an effort to win now, I expect he'll be gone, of course barring the team playing out of their minds and winning. If they do nothing to make the team better, he'll be gone. They should be looking to clear cap space OR trade for young "IFs". Unfortunately without knowing how the new CBA is going to look like it's a little tough to know what they plan on doing.

There aren't really any trades that would be close to equal, but I'd hope the Magic would go after lottery picks and a way to dump Arenas or Turk (whoever didn't get cut via amnesty). Even if it meant the Thunder matching whatever off Westbrook gets, then trading him to a lottery team for their #1 picks for the next year or two, swinging those picks our way while we gave them Howard and someone like Turk and tried to get an expiring or two from both the Thunder and said lottery team. Obviously that's just a weird scenario but that's because I don't know how teams are going to look like 6 months from now, as well as the cap situation.


Both sides being optimistic about the Amnesty Clause is good for Orlando, though. Hopefully they don't think that because Dallas won this year that they can try to get tons of vets and do the same. Dwight may say he wants to win this year and blahblahblah but if he's not signing an extension the team HAS to do what's best for them AND for Howard and clear cap space (go after guys like Andre Miller and Camby) and even if they suck, at least next year with Arenas being cut, the team will be able to tell Dwight "Look, we sucked for a year but now we have enough space to give you another star, something we weren't gonna be able to do last year" I'd rather see Dwight unhappy for a year, become a FA, and then re-sign with a guy like DWill or CP3 than see him somewhat happy for a year, having a disappointing loss in the playoffs again, become a FA, and then leave after realizing the team didn't have much future with all those overpaid vets they acquired.


It's a gamble every way but it's better if they were to lose Howard it'd be better to lose him while having cap space and scrubs that'd guarantee a lottery pick over losing him and being stuck with a bunch of crappy vets and no chance at a lottery pick/cap space. For this same reason is why you don't just trade him to any team. As a Franchise you have to understand you have to also go against the team you trade him to and if the Magic have any championship aspirations they won't trade him to Miami for one of Wade or LeBron, and if they have any sort of common sense they won't trade him for a bunch of 3rd bananas and MLE guys that can be acquired mid first round and in FA (like Denver did).

People say it's better to get something rather than nothing, and I read it here too, but I find it odd. Right now, would you rather be Denver, who has no lottery picks and barely any room to get better (or worse), or would you rather be Cleveland, with a #1 and #4 pick, some young guys, most likely another lottery pick on the way next year, and at most $40million in the payroll for 2012/2013? The Nuggets are probably going to extend Nene and if they don't want to lose out on the guys they traded for they're gonna have to start handing out QOs and matching offers or lose them and making the whole process of acquiring them pointless, almost counter productive.

FlaCavsFan said:

Deshawn Steven's shirt last night: Hey LeBron, tell me how my Dirk tastes!

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Holy. Fuck.

FlaCavsFan said:

Deshawn Steven's shirt last night: Hey LeBron, tell me how my Dirk tastes!

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Haha, I like the HDNet advertisement at the bottom, too.

ButterMPancakes said:

Not sure why you're saying sorry. . . I've said it thousands of times I'd expect him to if they don't make the team better/clear cap space. Only thing is they're not going to trade him for LeBron/Gasol-Bynum-Odom like people fantasize about.

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Mostly because it seems like he genuinely wants to stay, just that ORL likely won't have the talent to actually make it happen. Most Magic fans are pricks but still, feel kinda bad that he'll leave basically because of the mistakes made by the front office.