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To be fair, I really like how Kanter has played last season and he torched us in the game we played against them.

But no way in hell you pass up Noel for Len. I will lose faith in this franchise if they do.
 
To be fair, I really like how Kanter has played last season and he torched us in the game we played against them.

But no way in hell you pass up Noel for Len. I will lose faith in this franchise if they do.

If they do, it is more an indication in how much they admire Len versus the faults they might notice in Noel. I really wouldn't be surprised to see us move out of the top spot and take Len. If we are at one, i could still see us taking Len as well. I just get (and perhaps wrongfully) that the Cavaliers aren't all that high on Noel. Of course, with the Cavs...you never know what in the hell they are thinking even before a few hours prior to the draft....
 
Was there a "Closer Look ; Alex Len" thread ? (I looked, but could not find)
 
On Len's rehab:

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Ahead of NBA draft, Alex Len is in full control of his rehab process


The Washington Post
By Alex Prewitt, Tuesday, June 4, 9:59 AM

<article> It sounds like an air piston when Alex Len breathes, gasping in sync with the tennis balls being fired at his face. He snatches them quickly and ferociously, exhaling with metronomic rhythm, the sharp pfffs echoing inside this cavernous auxiliary gym on a humid May morning at the University of Maryland.

Len appears almost regal seated upon the stack of red gym mats parked inside the paint. Four trainers and team managers surround him on the perimeter. A fifth stabilizes Len from behind. Stiffening his back, Len throws his hands into the air, ready to catch. Initially, it looks like he is surrendering.

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Except this isn’t a surrender. The challenge, after all, has just begun. Since declaring for the NBA draft in mid-April after two seasons with the Terrapins, Len has surrounded himself with a trusted crew, each member tasked with arming the 19-year-old Ukrainian for the next battle.

A third ball gets added to the drill, a blue one no bigger than a softball. He’s getting in a rhythm now. Five in a row. Six in a row. Now a fourth ball, purple and heavier than the rest. It’s constant commotion, but the 7-foot-1 center looks almost peaceful.

It’s almost enough to forget about the silver walking boot strapped around his left foot.


‘He’s a tough kid’


Len had surgery to repair a partial stress fracture in his left ankle on April 27 at Charlotte’s Mercy Hospital. He walks with crutches but hops the stairs, two at a time. The foot’s range of motion has improved, but it still hurts when trainers grab the heel, arch back his toes and apply pressure to stretch it out.

Stress fractures worsen over time, compounded by overuse, so it’s impossible to pinpoint exactly when the injury occurred. Maybe during the ACC tournament in mid-March, when Len says he struggled to walk around the team hotel after games. Maybe against Iowa in the National Invitation Tournament semifinals on April 2, when the pain reached its peak. Right now, though, the origins don’t matter so much.

“What it did show me,” Maryland Coach Mark Turgeon said, “was that he’s a tough kid, a very tough kid who played through it, played through pain, which eventually became an injury. I think Alex was just trying to win as many games as he could down the stretch, and be successful. Never one time did the kid come to me and say he had a really bad injury.”

Once Len decided on surgery, he traveled to North Carolina to see Robert Anderson, a renowned foot and ankle surgeon responsible for operating on several high-profile NBA stars, including Kyrie Irving and Stephen Curry.
Len wants NBA teams to be reassured when evaluating his health, and there’s no one more trusted under these circumstances than Anderson.

It was the first major surgery of Len’s life, and his body reacted poorly to the anesthesia, which induced nausea and vomiting. He also doesn’t quite remember posing for a pre-operation photo snapped by his agent, forming a circle with his thumb and pointer finger around his eye, a monocle in full hospital gown.

Len thrives off structure and familiarity. His current daily routine was choreographed by Turgeon and Maryland director of basketball performance Kyle Tarp, the same duo responsible for overseeing Len’s 35-pound weight gain last offseason.

It’s why he signed with agent Michael Lelchitski, a Russian who speaks the language fluently and has become close with Len’s family. It’s why his iPhone buzzes for every meal, why an app tracks his sleep schedule and why he saves grocery receipts for Tarp’s inspection and approval.


Individual workouts for NBA teams were expected to boost Len’s stock, playing up his strengths as a tireless worker with an attractive skill set. But because of the injury, Tarp has been forced to get creative. “We’re going to come back stronger,” he said. “We’re going to come back better. And he knows that.”

Len begins his workout flat on his back in Maryland’s basketball performance center. His eyes are closed during this visualization exercise. He pictures his favorite low-post moves. Up-and-unders and dribble-drives. Something Tarp calls “The Tim Duncan,” a shoulder-to-shoulder sweep where Len arcs the basketball over his head, or “The Kevin Durant,” where the ball moves linearly, sharply across the chest.

Tarp bets big on the mind’s power.

“The ankle is the least of our concern,” he says. “We need to make sure the rest of the system stays where we need to be.”


‘Alex is a worker’


After several sets of seated medicine ball slams, pull-ups from a prone position and exercises involving a weighted bean bag to strengthen his grip, the workout moves to the gym upstairs. Len won’t shoot today, but on days that he does, they lower the backboard to simulate to the normal distance between his shoulders and the rim, so the transition will go smoother once he can stand.

For now, Len is perched atop the stacked mats and fielding chest passes. Behind him, a student manager slaps his shoulders, offering token resistance. Len’s legs occasionally kick forward when the passes arrive, as if he just wants to say boot-be-damned and return to midseason form. But the recovery process takes patience. It takes restraint.

Every drill is designed to cure a weakness. Twenty minutes of corrective exercises designed to prevent the body from over-compensating in other areas because of foot immobilization. Len needs ballhandling work, so he palms and pounds basketballs into folding chairs. Sometimes, he counts the number of repetitions out loud to practice communicating in English, a language Len first started studying less than two years ago. When Maryland women’s assistant David Adkins peppers Len’s lower-left quadrant with tennis balls, it’s because a vision training machine showed that Len reacted slower in that specific region.

Len’s injury precluded him from working out at the NBA draft combine last month, but he still conducted interviews with most of the lottery teams and came prepared. The binder Len shared with executives contained workout schedules and nutrition plans. Anything to show teams that months from now, once he reaches the last page of that book, the boot will be gone and he will be himself once again.

“That’s Alex,” Turgeon said. “Alex is a worker. Alex has been a pro since he stepped foot on campus. That’s just the way he approaches it. You have to dial him back, because it’ll work.”


A little bit of pain

The scar crawls up his leg like a splotchy caterpillar, the raw remains of 12 stitches bisected by the incision mark. Removing the walking boot, Len leans back on a cushioned training table, propping his good leg up onto a towel rack.

Trainer Matt Charvat approaches and works his toes from side to side, bending forward at the ankle and applying slight pressure. Len grips the table edges for balance. It hurts, but only a little.

For two years Len has lived with teammate John Auslander, a forward who is one of Len’s best friends. Last summer, Auslander also dealt with the exact same partial stress fracture, the specificity of which Len says is relatively uncommon among basketball players. Len ponders this oddity for a moment, wondering about the roommates’ freaky coincidence.

Yet Len doesn’t appear much burdened by fate or circumstance. He sees the problem and acts, like with the 38 marbles Charvat just dumped onto a white towel. Len must return them to a plastic container using only his left foot. He struggles initially, curling his second toe around the glass and bending the marble into the open space. Several fall. One rolls off the towel. But soon Len hits his stride, completing the task twice before grabbing the black crutches and calling it quits.

Alex Len has been in control all day, each second of the nearly three-hour workout scripted for maximum efficiency and oversight. But there’s something on his mind, an unanswered question he asked Charvat about the next step: June 27, when Len hears his name called at the NBA draft.

“You think I’ll be able to walk on the stage?”
 
Draftexpress.com has been fucking retarded lately as has nbadraft.net. Nerlens will be picked first.

I wouldn't be so sure. If Noel's knee is really screwed up, the Cavs might pass. Also I think Len is actually a more complete center than Noel. And finally, he is a perfect fit next to Tristan. It's not unreasonable to think it might happen.
 
Is it really entirely farfetched to have Len as the #1 prospect? He has the potential to be elite offensively, and still be someone like a mobile Roy Hibbert on defense. He is by far the most talented big guy to enter the draft since DeMarcus Cousins.

If I could come away with any 2 players from this draft, they would be Noel and Len.
 
I wouldn't be so sure. If Noel's knee is really screwed up, the Cavs might pass. Also I think Len is actually a more complete center than Noel. And finally, he is a perfect fit next to Tristan. It's not unreasonable to think it might happen.

At the very least, Nerlens should be the default number one pick until his knee is proven anything other than likely to fully heal. The ACL tear is not the issue since ACL tears don't really affect young guys like Noel, nor are they normally recurring injuries. It's other possible structural issues.
 
Was there a "Closer Look ; Alex Len" thread ? (I looked, but could not find)

I've tried to keep the initial posts updated with content posted from everyone else so you don't have to dig, same with the porter thread
 
Is it really entirely farfetched to have Len as the #1 prospect? He has the potential to be elite offensively, and still be someone like a mobile Roy Hibbert on defense. He is by far the most talented big guy to enter the draft since DeMarcus Cousins.

If I could come away with any 2 players from this draft, they would be Noel and Len.

Anthony Davis?
 
Forgot about AD....................................

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NBA Draft Prospect of the Week: Alex Lenby: Jonathan Givony - President, Mike SchmitzJune 6, 2013Alex Len is one of the most intriguing prospects in this draft class, featuring a rare combination of size, length, mobility and skill. What are his strengths and weaknesses and where can we expect him to get picked on draft night?

Alex Len, 7-1, Sophomore, Center, Maryland

Scouting Report by Jonathan Givony. Video Analysis by Mike Schmitz

Alex Len had an intriguing, but somewhat disjointed freshman season at Maryland, slowed by a ten game suspension by the NCAA revolving around his amateur status and his own acclimation making the significant transition from Ukraine. After a full year in the United States, Len was much better prepared for his sophomore season, and it showed in his production, as his numbers increased significantly in a number of key areas, namely his scoring, rebounding, passing and ability to stay out of foul trouble.

Len has added a significant amount of weight to his outstanding 7-1 frame, even if he wasn't quite able to maintain it as the season moved on. Nevertheless, his physical potential is off the charts, a he sports a 7-4 wingspan, a very solid base, and excellent agility and dexterity for a player his size.

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Offensively, Len increased his production from just 11.9 points per-40 as a freshman to 17.5 as a sophomore, without seeing a major drop-off in efficiency. While he's still somewhat of a work in progress on this end of the floor, he shows tremendous potential in a variety of different areas, as he has excellent fundamentals, soft hands, good touch, and the framework of a versatile skill-set, to go along with his fantastic physical profile.

41% of Len's offense came with his back to the basket, and he showed to be able to score over some of the best centers in college basketball this season, such as Nerlens Noel and Mason Plumlee. He dropped some terrific glimpses of potential from time to time, using pivot moves, fakes, jabs and rip-throughs, and being able to finish creatively from many different vantage points thanks to the excellent extension he gets due to his length and agility.

With that said, Len is not yet an efficient option in the post, as he converted just 38% of his field goal attempts in these situations this season. His footwork, countermoves, left hand, and the range on his jump-hook are all a work in progress, as he isn't always strong enough to establish deep post position against bulkier defenders at this stage, making it difficult for him to impose his will on opponents. He also lacks a degree of toughness and nastiness in this area both establishing himself and calling for the ball aggressively once he has his man sealed off, something that should improve in time with added experience and strength.

Len was also not in a great situation to showcase his back to the basket game, as his team suffered from very poor offensive spacing for much of the season. They mostly opted to use an offensively challenged power forward alongside him instead of someone that can stretch the defense, which brought an additional opponent inside the paint at all times. Maryland's guard play also left a lot to be desired, as Len's teammates often did a very poor job of getting him the ball when he did have position established, seemingly having no idea how (or simply being unwilling) to make basic post-entry passes, something that surprisingly did not improve at all during the season.

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Off the ball, Len shows excellent potential as a pick and roll and catch and finish threat, converting 65% of his non-post-up attempts around the basket on the season according to Synergy Sports Technology, which is among the best rates in this draft. He sports an enviable combination of size, mobility, hands, length and explosiveness to help him get the job done, setting screens and rolling to the basket with terrific agility, and being capable of playing above the rim with ease. He keeps the ball high and can finish with power from great distances thanks to his long wingspan and solid leaping ability off two feet, even if he still needs to gain strength to improve his ability to finish through contact.

Len also shows a solid skill-level from the perimeter, being capable of putting the ball on the floor at times in a straight line, sometimes in impressive fashion, and also make an outside shot with his feet set. Len isn't a terribly consistent jump-shooter at this stage (he made 36% of his catch and shoot attempts this season), but his soft touch, solid mechanics, and the fact that he was able to convert 69% of his free throw attempts leaves a lot of room for optimism down the road.

While not a polished player at this stage and clearly lacking experience, Len generally shows a solid feel for the game, as he executes well offensively, is highly coordinated, capable of passing out of double teams, and doesn't turn the ball over that frequently.

Defensively, Len shows great potential with his size, long arms and mobility, but is still somewhat of a work in progress at this stage. On one hand he shows the ability to hedge screens out on the perimeter thanks to his quick feet and excellent agility, stepping out and recovering back to protect the rim and being difficult to shoot over thanks to his excellent length. On the other hand, his intensity-level leaves something to be desired at times, as he doesn't always get a hand up on opponents, can be lackadaisical running the floor, and will give up deep post position inside the paint, allowing himself to get schooled by more experienced opponents.

Len is extremely difficult to score over when he's fully dialed into getting a stop, as his length is a huge asset in contesting shots and also allows him to come up with plenty of deflections, rebounds and blocks. He pulled down a very solid 11.5 rebounds per-40 this season, boxing out effectively and sometimes going well out of his area for loose balls, and also blocked a solid 3 shots per-40, which ranks in the top-10 in this draft. He loses his focus easily at times, though, and isn't always as aggressive as you might hope, which is something he'll have to work on as he adds strength and experience and benefits from better coaching than he's received up until this point in his career.

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One of the younger big men in this draft in terms of age (not turning 20 until mid-June), physical development and experience, Len is very much still figuring things out as a basketball player, but shows some of the best potential of any prospect in this draft. While somewhat inconsistent at times in terms of production, he dropped some phenomenal glimpses of talent this season, executing moves that only a handful of 7-footers anywhere in the world can pull off. It's difficult to ascertain just much of his full potential we were able to see from him at Maryland, and how much tougher and more aggressive he'll get once his frame fully fills out, but there's a lot to be optimistic about.

Len is unlikely to be a dominating presence in the NBA from day one, as he'll need to go to a team that is willing to be patient with him as his body improves and his skill-level continues to round out. There is little doubt that he has all the tools to be an extremely valuable piece for a team down the road, though, as players with his physical attributes and talent are coveted commodities and virtually impossible to acquire outside of the draft. Len is drawing heavy interest throughout the top-10, being hampered somewhat by a stress fracture in his left ankle that will prevent him from conducting any workouts and will sideline him for 4-6 months. It wouldn't be a surprise to see someone roll the dice on him earlier than most have projected, though, or even to see someone trade up to acquire his rights.


From DraftExpress.comhttp://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz2VVS94UXf
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Maybe a more interesting question is why does Draft Express rank Len as the #1 prospect but still have Noel listed as the likely #1 pick by the Cavs. Is it based on what Givony is hearing or is it based on his evaluation? Is the prospect list more of a Givony ranking and the Mock Draft more of his prediction? Or does it mean that Givony just updated one before updating the other?
 

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