2014 NFL Draft Thread

You know what, fuck it, I'm starting to change my mind on drafting a QB at 4 (unless Bridgewater is still there). I think we need to go Watkins. I'm starting to drool at the mouth thinking of pairing up two pro bowl guys like this, something that has really never been done with guys this talented. Draft a QB at 26, and let him groom behind Hoyer next season.

It's very reasonable to assume that Teddy and Bortles wont be there at 4. If you don't want to bite on Carr or Manziel that early, the you're sort of stuck with OT, WR or pass rusher.

I was all about Watkins at 4; however I can't help but think there are guys at our second selection which will have comparable careers. Yet, if Bortles and TB are gone I have no idea where I would want to go -- probably cry a little then think about it.

My top 4 for Browns 1st pick. I would be happy with any of these guys.

1. Teddy Bridgewater
2. Blake Bortles
3. Sammy Watkins
4. Greg Robinson

Feel like we have to move up to #2 if we want Teddy/Bortles. I think Jacksonville really wants Bridgewater.

getBUCKED said:

Feel like we have to move up to #2 if we want Teddy/Bortles. I think Jacksonville really wants Bridgewater.

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They should from a football stand point. However; Jacksonville is an interesting test case. New owner, new coaching staff but same dead fan base. There was a lot of talk that Kahn wanted to trade for Tebow to revitalize the fan base a few years back. I can see them looking at the top 3 and maybe weighing Manziel's star power a little high in order to create buzz.

A couple of nuggets from MF Jones added up. Who knows if it's true but the drum beat today, day 3 of the combine, is the Browns are not all that high on the 3 QBs at the top.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>I get the feeling they'd take Clowney if he's there at 4 <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23browns&amp;src=hash">#browns</a></p>&mdash; MF Jones (@CONCEDE) <a href="https://twitter.com/CONCEDE/statuses/437602915331883008">February 23, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>“<a href="https://twitter.com/GordonNetschke">@GordonNetschke</a>: <a href="https://twitter.com/CONCEDE">@CONCEDE</a> Question is, if Clowney is gone and they don't love a QB, what do they do?”-- Sammy maybe. Trade</p>&mdash; MF Jones (@CONCEDE) <a href="https://twitter.com/CONCEDE/statuses/437605455855378433">February 23, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Mentioned a while back, but unfortunately it's popped up again. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Browns&amp;src=hash">#Browns</a> are supposedly looking hard at Shaub &amp; will try to go after him.</p>&mdash; MF Jones (@CONCEDE) <a href="https://twitter.com/CONCEDE/statuses/437605828687056896">February 23, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Who knows if they end up taking him, but I know the <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Browns&amp;src=hash">#Browns</a> like the Grappilo kid</p>&mdash; MF Jones (@CONCEDE) <a href="https://twitter.com/CONCEDE/statuses/437611175535054848">February 23, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Apparently they don't like Bortles <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Browns&amp;src=hash">#Browns</a></p>&mdash; MF Jones (@CONCEDE) <a href="https://twitter.com/CONCEDE/statuses/437615920769277952">February 23, 2014</a></blockquote>
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So add those up and you get
no to Bortles
Clowney is near or at the top of their board
Watkins is in the top 4 with Clowney
Rumor of Schaub- who was Shanny's QB in Hou
They have sung the praises of Brian Hoyer all offseason and haven't mentioned the words "Campbell" or "Weeden"
They like Jimmy Garappolo

Add those up and you probably get nothing but today at least it's interesting information.

Another point I need to make here for Manziel fans. The biggest Manziel proponents in town, if you listen to sports radio, are Chuck Booms, Aaron Goldhammer and Joe Lull.

I like Lull quite a bit but he was a big Tannehill guy as well as Alex Smith so I haven't agreed with his QB guys in the last 3 years.

Booms and Goldhammer, LOL

I mean as a general rule, you should always go in the opposite direction of those 2.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>This might tell you all you need to know. The <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Browns&amp;src=hash">#Browns</a> aren't interviewing any QBs at the combine.</p>&mdash; MF Jones (@CONCEDE) <a href="https://twitter.com/CONCEDE/statuses/437644007024230403">February 23, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Whoa, we'll see if that's confirmed.



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>“<a href="https://twitter.com/jwalt2112">@jwalt2112</a>: <a href="https://twitter.com/CONCEDE">@CONCEDE</a> Really think its hoyer and they trade for comp.”-- they're looking at trading for Shaub</p>&mdash; MF Jones (@CONCEDE) <a href="https://twitter.com/CONCEDE/statuses/437645256083783680">February 23, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Where we stand interview wise:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Clemson WR Sammy Watkins said he has had formal interview and informal talk with <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Browns&amp;src=hash">#Browns</a> at <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NFLCombine&amp;src=hash">#NFLCombine</a>.</p>&mdash; Nate Ulrich (@NateUlrichABJ) <a href="https://twitter.com/NateUlrichABJ/statuses/437328318803623936">February 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>E Illinois QB Jimmy Garoppolo said he has a private interview with the <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Browns&amp;src=hash">#Browns</a></p>&mdash; Fred Greetham (@FredGreethamOBR) <a href="https://twitter.com/FredGreethamOBR/statuses/436965867000053761">February 21, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>OSU WR Philly Brown has had private interview with <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Browns&amp;src=hash">#Browns</a></p>&mdash; Daryl Ruiter (@RuiterWrongFAN) <a href="https://twitter.com/RuiterWrongFAN/statuses/436934674665836544">February 21, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Lynch said he's talked with teams about playing QB, RB and S. Said short interview with Browns &quot;went really well.&quot;</p>&mdash; Zac Jackson (@FSOhioZJackson) <a href="https://twitter.com/FSOhioZJackson/statuses/436909741881581569">February 21, 2014</a></blockquote>
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I'll try to do some more digging, but that's what I could find with a quick search

All I will ever remember about Lynch is him crying at the end of the game after getting his shit stomped in by Bowling Green in the MAC Championship game. :chuckles:

Also, I still think he looks like the bad guy on the other team in every sports movie ever.

So rumor today was we are looking into Schaub. Schaub was AWFUL last year. Absolutely awful. Prior to that season, he was actually extremely effective. He's 32 years old. So going forward, is he going to be like last year or more like the Schaub from the previous 6 seasons?

"Schaub drops back to pass he's got Watkins and Gordon deep! Oh no and it's intercepted by Kuechly and that will go for a touchdown. My goodness what a disaster." -Jim Donavon

In all seriousness I hope they really like Hoyer because poor Larry Fitzgerald aside from 1 season has had his career WASTED in Arizona. The receivers can only do what the QB sets them up to do.

MF Jones seemed to be relaying less from his CLE source, and more trying to sound like a draft guru today on twitter IMO. I can't get into the scout forums today, but I remember a couple premium nuggets about how Farmer was believed to have Bridgewater as his top QB, and was not going to spend the #4 pick on Clowney.

There was also some back & forth about Clowney's 21 bench reps at the Combine; the pro-Clowney camp blamed the pedestrian rep performance on his long-ass arms, but the detractors cite his lack of dedication to the weight room. Quinn had 22 reps a couple years ago, and turned out pretty solid IIRC. Clowney's game seems more predicated on explosion over strength, but the 'lack of weight room time' narrative seems to jive with his questionable work ethic. I did some brief digging, looking for some #s from Clowney in the weight room, and could only find a 350# power clean from last year. Legit number, but I couldn't find anything on squat, bench, etc.

I'm a huge Bortles fan, and I've had great views of all the UCF home games; however, I never thought he'd have the polished skills necessary to be a top pick this year. I thought of him more as a very good prospect, who projects very well to the NFL game. If Bridgewater isn't there, I would be happy getting BB at #4 knowing we have Hoyer who can keep a clipboard in BBs hands with decent play.

I'm with b00bie about Watkins at four, as well; no reason to spend a top four pick on WR2, when the WR positional depth is as good as I've seen it in years. We still have a legit chance at getting a guy like Beckham at 26, but getting a guy like the Vanderbilt kid in the 2nd would be a home run.

As of 2/23, my dream scenario (which I reserve to change) is:
4) Bridgewater (Bortles, OT, Clowney)
26) BPA
2nd) Matthews WR Vandy
3rd) RB

I really don't by any of that shit from MF Jones.

I think Jordan Matthews really moved up the board (the one in my head :chuckles as the guy I want them to take at 26. No way Evans will still be there. I think he will be gone by the second round. Allen Robinson is a good option and Benjamin as well. Really any of those three intrigue me with 26 or the 2nd round pick.

I like all three of the QBs, so I don't care who. But really think, unless they view them as very, very, very overrated, they need a QB at 4.

EDIT: Uhhhhh, what happened to MF Jones' twitter?