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Racial Tension in the U.S.

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  • Racial Tension in the U.S.

    Votes: 16 51.6%

  • Extremist Views on the U.S.

    Votes: 2 6.5%

  • Mending Years of Racial Stereotypes.

    Votes: 2 6.5%

  • Protest Culture.

    Votes: 1 3.2%

  • Racist Idiots in the News.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 10 32.3%
  • Total voters
    31
David. said:
If he condemns Nazis, what's does that tell you about the narrative of everyone there?
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Wait, so he's marching arm in arm, and chanting--- but then gets exposed, and "condems" it?

Really, Dave?
 
DJTJ said:
Wait, so he's marching arm in arm, and chanting--- but then gets exposed, and "condems" it?

Really, Dave?
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You didn't read a line of the article.

Really dj!?

Lmk if you want to discuss something civilly. We talked about that a lot earlier and everyone else is on board.
 
-Akronite- said:
In that situation you're talking about someone who I really feel sorry for since they fell for a con artist that has no means let alone intention of bringing meaningful recooperation to those depressed areas.

I would also say a lot of people in those areas DO overlap with the types that are anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant, and anti-LGBT in large part because of lack of exposure. Trump took that fear, that anger, and that ignorance and beat his drum pretty loudly on it.

And I don't believe that you are voting against yourself to vote in favor of equality and respect for people that are different than you. The fact that it can be so easily framed as us vs them is very much a part of the problem.

And I'm sure Nathan wasn't trying to call me out. If he knew anything about me he'd know I have much more contempt for the rich than poor white people. :chuckle:
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Why do you have so much contempt for the rich before you know anything about them?
 
David. said:
You didn't read a line of the article.

Really dj!?

Lmk if you want to discuss something civilly. We talked about that a lot earlier and everyone else is on board.
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I did, actually. Misread it once the names went from Roy to Wormer.

But, still; really funny that you fell hard for a false flag article published by one single news source.

As in, not a single other source. You know why? Because Sam Fucking Wormer doesn't even believe Antifa attacked him. He literally thinks he was attacked by Nazis.
 
The Oi said:
Why do you have so much contempt for the rich before you know anything about them?
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Speaking for myself, I mainly have contempt for rich people

A. Who blatantly don't give a fuck about anyone poorer than them (I can raise the price of this lifesaving drug and put the profits directly into my already-fat wallet? Great, let's do it!)

B. Who are blatantly racist in choosing whether to care about people poorer than them (Drug epidemic in a poor white community? Let's do anything and everything to create JOBS JOBS JOBS! Drug epidemic in a poor black community? Let's triple the police presence and pack the jails with minor drug offenders!)
 
David. said:
.. It says unproven.

How are you misreading this much.?

Did you really not read the mods posts earlier either?
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Sam Wormer... in an interview stated he didn't believe it was Antifa. You post a single source who picked up the story, who blamed it on Antifa.

Essex police? Nothing. You linked an article that's a false flag. People are telling you how ridiculous it is.

edit: I'll go one further; if it says unproven, why are you posting it as fact?
 
-Akronite- said:
In that situation you're talking about someone who I really feel sorry for since they fell for a con artist that has no means let alone intention of bringing meaningful recooperation to those depressed areas.

I would also say a lot of people in those areas DO overlap with the types that are anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant, and anti-LGBT in large part because of lack of exposure. Trump took that fear, that anger, and that ignorance and beat his drum pretty loudly on it.

And I don't believe that you are voting against yourself to vote in favor of equality and respect for people that are different than you. The fact that it can be so easily framed as us vs them is very much a part of the problem.

And I'm sure Nathan wasn't trying to call me out. If he knew anything about me he'd know I have much more contempt for the rich than poor white people. :chuckle:
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I agree with you that Trump was full of shit when he claimed to be able to bring coal jobs back to such areas because like every President has done on the campaign trail he was making promises he couldn't keep, and knew it and didn't care. I didn't bother expressing that opinion to people here because I knew it wouldn't change their vote and that's not my place in the world as I see it...to change votes that is.

That said, anecdotally...the town I live in is very, very poor. The concern here has nothing to do with Muslims or LGBT. They're not even on the radar. The concerns are:

1) How the FUCK are they going to create and get jobs in this depressed area nobody wants to move to?

2) How are they going to stop heroin overdoses?

So you can imagine how the rights of Muslims and LGBT people aren't even on the radar here. Muslim terrorists aren't going to be invading this place any time soon because there's nobody here to kill!

Most of these people either don't know any LGBT people or if they do I have heard over and over that they don't gaf one way or the other if they marry or don't, so long as there are jobs here.

I'd imagine this place is quite similar to the many, many other rust belt towns he won...
 
The Oi said:
I agree with you that Trump was full of shit when he claimed to be able to bring coal jobs back to such areas because like every President has done on the campaign trail he was making promises he couldn't keep, and knew it and didn't care. I didn't bother expressing that opinion to people here because I knew it wouldn't change their vote and that's not my place in the world as I see it...to change votes that is.

That said, anecdotally...the town I live in is very, very poor. The concern here has nothing to do with Muslims or LGBT. They're not even on the radar. The concerns are:

1) How the FUCK are they going to create and get jobs in this depressed area nobody wants to move to?

2) How are they going to stop heroin overdoses?

So you can imagine how the rights of Muslims and LGBT people aren't even on the radar here. Muslim terrorists aren't going to be invading this place any time soon because there's nobody here to kill!

Most of these people either don't know any LGBT people or if they do I have heard over and over that they don't gaf one way or the other if they marry or don't, so long as there are jobs here.

I'd imagine this place is quite similar to the many, many other rust belt towns he won...
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Question on your town, because it seems very similar to mine, very similar to a lot of my families that still live in PA.

Do people stay there in poverty for generations asking when the jobs will come?
 
DJTJ said:
Question on your town, because it seems very similar to mine, very similar to a lot of my families that still live in PA.

Do people stay there in poverty for generations asking when the jobs will come?
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They do.
 
The Oi said:
They do.
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You'll understand this point then...

Sometimes, people need to leave where they're from to find a job instead of blaming 20+ years of a lack of job on anyone besides themselves. These areas, largely white, are called blue collar areas are celebrated and leaned on. Exact opposite of inner city welfare areas.

Do you ever question that, you know, maybe they're just cool where they're at and it's easier to complain than to actually seek employment?
 
DJTJ said:
Question on your town, because it seems very similar to mine, very similar to a lot of my families that still live in PA.

Do people stay there in poverty for generations asking when the jobs will come?
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Same with my hometown. My #1 fear when I was a kid was that I'd end up stuck there for my whole life like so many people I saw around me. It's a sad existence.
 
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