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Let's Talk about Jesus Christ, Creation, and Whether You Believe or Not

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Y'all realize he called himself a street preacher earlier in this thread, right? You know... the guy with the signs preaching at you?
 
Skyscraper said:
They were made by the fallen angels that you read briefly about in Genesis 6, which the Book of Enoch goes into great detail about.

They mixed DNAs of mamals and reptiles to come up with the dinosaur.

No measuring system can accurately measure how old something is. Dont be so naive. These dinosaurs were destroyed in the year flood which gave us the event of Noahs Arc.
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I hope you realize there's clear evidence of MULTIPLE mass extinctions during the Dinosaur eras.

All bringing about the rise of different but similar species.

So no. That is absolutely false.
 
DJTJ said:
Without using the bible, prove that.
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We can go to the Book of Enoch then.. He was Noahs great grandfather who was present in the world at the time of the fallen angels, an eyewitness... Observing with his own 2 eyes what was happening in those days leading up to the flood. This is official documentation that was preserved even through the great flood and also referenced in the Holy Bible in the Book of Jude.. Which Jesus Christ also quotes from prophecy documented in the Book of Enoch. Amen.

The truth is documented.

Prove to me your belief without unproven and unobserved theories?
 
Triplethreat said:
I hope you realize there's clear evidence of MULTIPLE mass extinctions during the Dinosaur eras.

All bringing about the rise of different but similar species.

So no. That is absolutely false.
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:chuckle:

Science is so toxic to these fragile minds.
 
Walter White said:
Not sure how I missed this thread, now I'm way behind. And I'm not sure if Skyscraper is a troll or legit, but I in fact do believe in God and the Bible. I just don't know if it's worth discussing considering the hate I see here towards God and people that believe in him.

I could answer some of the unanswered questions, but I'd probably rather not since all I see is bashing and mockery. I mean I have discussed this in great detail in other threads a long time ago, but I feel like people will get offended now if I simply try to answer their questions. Which I don't want to do. Although I'm not supposed to get offended at all the insults in here.

I'm open to an honest discussion. But that doesn't seem to be the current goal of this thread.
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Go for it, man. The issue here has been, largely, asking for proof from someone vaguely skating around questions who originally claimed to want an open discussion.

In reality, all he's done is deflect. It's the common science vs bible issue. Here is evidence that challenges your belief. No, that evidence isn't true.

But if you're willing to give answers people are looking for? Yes, please. This thread needs that desperately.
 
Kiddo said:
I'm saddened by a lot of the comments i am reading. I think Skyscraper could change his approach a little but if you don't agree with him you're allowed to leave.

I'll share some things that have happened to me, all after I excepted the Lord as my Savior. So i want you to imagine the pulsating feeling of electrotherapy pads.
About 5 years ago i am awakened in the middle of the night to what sounded like our fire alarms going off and it is so loud my ears are hurting. So i'm desperately trying to sit up and i'm try to yell at my wife to wake up but i can't move and i cant make a sound. I'm laying there frozen, in shock and scared. Then this pulse that feels exactly like the therapy pads starts at my head and slowing spreads all across my body and down through my legs. I remember laying there for a long time just in shock with my heart racing. I didn't understand what it was until the next morning but i became baptized with the Holy Spirit. Since then i've been awakened 5-6 times to the same thing. A couple times i awakened by ringing in my ears again but twice it was the sound of wings fluttering. I've also been awakened by what felt like someone tugging on my finger/hand. Also several years ago i was searching for an answer about a career change. I was at a roadblock and was trying to decide between 2 opportunities. I was awakened by the fluttering of wings and an immediate loud voice yelling the name of the company i now work for.

It's experiences like this that have truly changed my life and i wish all of you could have them. While you might not believe in God or Jesus, it would serve you well to stop making a mockery of Christianity.
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Dude I think you have sleep paralysis. Talk to a doctor.
 
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DJTJ said:
Y'all realize he called himself a street preacher earlier in this thread, right? You know... the guy with the signs preaching at you?
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Again, another man lying in me claiming he knows how I preach and what I preach on.

Why spread lies on me like that? I know you hate me solely for the Lords name, but dont stoop so low. Be more upright than that.
 
Skyscraper said:
We can go to the Book of Enoch then.. He was Noahs great grandfather who was present in the world at the time of the fallen angels, an eyewitness... Observing with his own 2 eyes what was happening in those days leading up to the flood. This is official documentation that was preserved even through the great flood and also referenced in the Holy Bible in the Book of Jude.. Which Jesus Christ also quotes from prophecy documented in the Book of Enoch. Amen.

The truth is documented.

Prove to me your belief without unproven and unobserved theories?
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There is bones.... numerous showing these animals feeding on others. None of which have ever been found with human remains as well. No proof of human beings being alive whatsoever at that time.

Why? Because they weren't.

The Dinosaurs were wiped out billions of years ago by a catastrophic world event.
 
Skyscraper said:
So, if we can all talk cordially and respectably, that would be great. No insults, no sarcasm. But let's keep it respectful and honest and we can have a great conversation.
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Man Called X said:
Oh this should be good. Let's argue about imaginary friends and fairy tales.

Can we just ban the guy and be done with it before the shitstorm starts?
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Didn't even make it one page. :( Dont think i want to read the rest of this.
 
Skyscraper said:
We can go to the Book of Enoch then.. He was Noahs great grandfather who was present in the world at the time of the fallen angels, an eyewitness... Observing with his own 2 eyes what was happening in those days leading up to the flood. This is official documentation that was preserved even through the great flood and also referenced in the Holy Bible in the Book of Jude.. Which Jesus Christ also quotes from prophecy documented in the Book of Enoch. Amen.

The truth is documented.

Prove to me your belief without unproven and unobserved theories?
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Skyscraper said:
We can go to the Book of Enoch then.. He was Noahs great grandfather who was present in the world at the time of the fallen angels, an eyewitness... Observing with his own 2 eyes what was happening in those days leading up to the flood. This is official documentation that was preserved even through the great flood and also referenced in the Holy Bible in the Book of Jude.. Which Jesus Christ also quotes from prophecy documented in the Book of Enoch. Amen.

The truth is documented.

Prove to me your belief without unproven and unobserved theories?
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So again, without using the bible, prove the Flood happened. Because you did the exact opposite of proving that dinosaurs were made from mammals and dinosaurs.

You're asking people to believe that a book that you won't admit was altered, changed, and revised is telling a full truth.

It's a belief system, and that's fine.
 
DJTJ said:
So again, without using the bible, prove the Flood happened. Because you did the exact opposite of proving that dinosaurs were made from mammals and dinosaurs.

You're asking people to believe that a book that you won't admit was altered, changed, and revised is telling a full truth.

It's a belief system, and that's fine.
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Actually, there is significant evidence of a mass flood happening. I'm not sure if the time frame matches up.

Look up Randall Carlson. Listen to his podcast with Joe Rogan and Graham Hancock. It's very interesting stuff, essentially the belief is that there have been multiple mass extinctions of the human race as well.
 
Skyscraper said:
:chuckle:

Science is so toxic to these fragile minds.
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You see this shit? You want to pretend as if we have toxic ideas and that we are easily manipulated or something, but you clearly aren’t even here for a debate. If you want to simply ignore the whole of science in favor of Bible quotes, there is zero point in discussing anything with you.

A lot of creationists will cite the ego of man, assuming there is no higher power means that we are the highest power. But you are the one that will claim you know the secret to life and the universe because God told you. It’s insanity.
 
Triplethreat said:
I have sleep paralysis as well.

It's terrifying but only happens ever so often. Does sound similar to what he is describing.
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Only experienced it a couple times but luckily I was aware of what it was so I was able to remain calm. If you don’t know what’s happening to you it’d be terrifying.
 
Kiddo said:
I'm saddened by a lot of the comments i am reading. I think Skyscraper could change his approach a little but if you don't agree with him you're allowed to leave.

I'll share some things that have happened to me, all after I excepted the Lord as my Savior. So i want you to imagine the pulsating feeling of electrotherapy pads.
About 5 years ago i am awakened in the middle of the night to what sounded like our fire alarms going off and it is so loud my ears are hurting. So i'm desperately trying to sit up and i'm try to yell at my wife to wake up but i can't move and i cant make a sound. I'm laying there frozen, in shock and scared. Then this pulse that feels exactly like the therapy pads starts at my head and slowing spreads all across my body and down through my legs. I remember laying there for a long time just in shock with my heart racing. I didn't understand what it was until the next morning but i became baptized with the Holy Spirit. Since then i've been awakened 5-6 times to the same thing. A couple times i awakened by ringing in my ears again but twice it was the sound of wings fluttering. I've also been awakened by what felt like someone tugging on my finger/hand. Also several years ago i was searching for an answer about a career change. I was at a roadblock and was trying to decide between 2 opportunities. I was awakened by the fluttering of wings and an immediate loud voice yelling the name of the company i now work for.

It's experiences like this that have truly changed my life and i wish all of you could have them. While you might not believe in God or Jesus, it would serve you well to stop making a mockery of Christianity.
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I could change my approach? Whats wrong with my approach? Maybe you can open your own thread on a board full of atheists who don't "know" you and have it go 29+ pages and i would love to see how you conduct yourself amidst all the mockery, anger, insults, lies, false accusations, persecution, etc. We will see how much patience you really have even after 5 pages of back to back to back to back posters mocking you and insulting you. And then i would like to see how you are doing after 29+ pages. Then come back to tell me, my conduct can be different.

You preface your statement with a subtle jab at me to warm the ears of these snarling dogs.
 
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