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Meaningless poll, but lets play....where will the pick end up after the lottery?

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The Human Q-Tip said:
But wouldn't we have to send them back more than just TT's salary?
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Sure...I'm just saying I'm certainly not trading Love TT and BKN pick like someone suggested ... I'm not trading Love and that pick both for PG13 ever ..
 
Sir'Dom Pointer said:
Yeah, but he is for sure going to be picked top 5, most likely even inside the top 3.

Silver should make the new draft reform active for this draft.
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I wouldn't say he's a lock for the top 5. As much as he's become a board favorite, most outlets have him in the 5-8 range
 
Rich said:
So, George opting in is the only real way. A sign and trade almost makes it impossible to do a deal w/o Love (plus another big salary). Now, I guess if OKC would accept Love and TT, that would be swell.

But they won't. And cause we can't him any other, they can absolutely just say no and dare George to find another team better than where he's at. They'll want the BKN pick....and what's the point of that? On a team with Clarkson and Hood? What's the goal of a move where we trade Love and the BKN pick for George?
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Sign and trade isn’t an option because the Cavs aren’t getting under the tax apron. If it was just a salary thing the Cavs could make it work easily enough without Love. But regardless, you’re right in that opting in is the only way.

It’s definitely a long shot. No doubts there. And it’s all gonna come down to:how does OKC look in the playoffs this year. If they either make the WCF, OR have a highly competitive battle with GS or Housto without Roberson .I think George might stay on a 2+1 or something like that.

If they lose in the first round or barely win and then get steamrolled by whoever in the 2nd...I think he could easily leave.


Random question for the thread...

Do you guys think the Suns would trade Booker for a top 3 pick? Say the Suns win the lottery and Nets jump to #3. Booker for #3, straight up deal. Phoenix presses restart again with #1 and #3. Cavs think Booker is basically Klay Thompson if you put him with LeBron. Any chance Phoenix is intrigued by that? Booker has one more year left at rookie scale before getting a max. New pick would have 4 years. Phoenix’ current “rebuild” has been a complete disaster of epic proportions. Whiffed on Bender. Warren is overpaid now. Whiffed on Chris’s probably. Early returns on Jackson are poor—-he has a chance to be a nice complimentary piece maybe but his star potential seems unlikely at best right now...


Then again maybe they shouldn’t be trading the one stud they did find for a draft pick if they suck at drafting. They should clear house in the FO too.
 
InBoobieWeTrust said:
Sign and trade isn’t an option because the Cavs aren’t getting under the tax apron. If it was just a salary thing the Cavs could make it work easily enough without Love. But regardless, you’re right in that opting in is the only way.

It’s definitely a long shot. No doubts there. And it’s all gonna come down to:how does OKC look in the playoffs this year. If they either make the WCF, OR have a highly competitive battle with GS or Housto without Roberson .I think George might stay on a 2+1 or something like that.

If they lose in the first round or barely win and then get steamrolled by whoever in the 2nd...I think he could easily leave.


Random question for the thread...

Do you guys think the Suns would trade Booker for a top 3 pick? Say the Suns win the lottery and Nets jump to #3. Booker for #3, straight up deal. Phoenix presses restart again with #1 and #3. Cavs think Booker is basically Klay Thompson if you put him with LeBron. Any chance Phoenix is intrigued by that? Booker has one more year left at rookie scale before getting a max. New pick would have 4 years. Phoenix’ current “rebuild” has been a complete disaster of epic proportions. Whiffed on Bender. Warren is overpaid now. Whiffed on Chris’s probably. Early returns on Jackson are poor—-he has a chance to be a nice complimentary piece maybe but his star potential seems unlikely at best right now...


Then again maybe they shouldn’t be trading the one stud they did find for a draft pick if they suck at drafting. They should clear house in the FO too.
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He may be Klay Thompson offensively...but how confident are we that he can be Klay Thompson defensively? If he's going to continue being a (very) subpar defender, I'd rather find a way to extend Hood and keep the pick, if possible. If we think Booker could be a plus defender too in the right situation then I might pull the trigger. I think he could very well be a top-10 player in the NBA a couple years down the road in that scenario.
 
InBoobieWeTrust said:
Sign and trade isn’t an option because the Cavs aren’t getting under the tax apron. If it was just a salary thing the Cavs could make it work easily enough without Love. But regardless, you’re right in that opting in is the only way.

It’s definitely a long shot. No doubts there. And it’s all gonna come down to:how does OKC look in the playoffs this year. If they either make the WCF, OR have a highly competitive battle with GS or Housto without Roberson .I think George might stay on a 2+1 or something like that.

If they lose in the first round or barely win and then get steamrolled by whoever in the 2nd...I think he could easily leave.


Random question for the thread...

Do you guys think the Suns would trade Booker for a top 3 pick? Say the Suns win the lottery and Nets jump to #3. Booker for #3, straight up deal. Phoenix presses restart again with #1 and #3. Cavs think Booker is basically Klay Thompson if you put him with LeBron. Any chance Phoenix is intrigued by that? Booker has one more year left at rookie scale before getting a max. New pick would have 4 years. Phoenix’ current “rebuild” has been a complete disaster of epic proportions. Whiffed on Bender. Warren is overpaid now. Whiffed on Chris’s probably. Early returns on Jackson are poor—-he has a chance to be a nice complimentary piece maybe but his star potential seems unlikely at best right now...


Then again maybe they shouldn’t be trading the one stud they did find for a draft pick if they suck at drafting. They should clear house in the FO too.
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Booker has shown some creative juice off the bounce. I'd be on board. That cap situation would become a disaster of epic proportions once he got his max though.
 
I think Booker's defense will not be enough to make him a top 15 player. I feel like even if he increased his effort his measurables aren't impressive enough to make him stand out much as a defender. Seems slow and stubby limbed.
 
InBoobieWeTrust said:
Sign and trade isn’t an option because the Cavs aren’t getting under the tax apron. If it was just a salary thing the Cavs could make it work easily enough without Love. But regardless, you’re right in that opting in is the only way.
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Cavs should really consider a George S&T... even if it means getting under the apron for a single-year. We're not scheduled to be THAT far above the apron next season and we only have LeBron and Hood as impending free agents, and I'd assume in such a scenario that we're not bringing any drafted players back.

If the Cavs could send out Love, Hill, Thompson, and Smith and not re-sign Hood, or S&T him; that's $72.7M in outbound salary. Assuming LeBron would be okay doing a Durant-esque 1+1 pay cut, then the Cavs could then bring back two max contracts, and still be under the apron. We'd have no exceptions and be hard capped, but, we'd have a "Big 3." FWIW...

The only question here is, who do you try to go out and get?

If you can get George and Beal (a combined $55.73M), then I think you have to do it. You'd just have to either start LeBron at PG, start Clarkson, or save some room to find a vet PG in that amount of space, all of which, I think might be viable solutions.
 
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InBoobieWeTrust said:
Sign and trade isn’t an option because the Cavs aren’t getting under the tax apron. If it was just a salary thing the Cavs could make it work easily enough without Love. But regardless, you’re right in that opting in is the only way.

It’s definitely a long shot. No doubts there. And it’s all gonna come down to:how does OKC look in the playoffs this year. If they either make the WCF, OR have a highly competitive battle with GS or Housto without Roberson .I think George might stay on a 2+1 or something like that.

If they lose in the first round or barely win and then get steamrolled by whoever in the 2nd...I think he could easily leave.


Random question for the thread...

Do you guys think the Suns would trade Booker for a top 3 pick? Say the Suns win the lottery and Nets jump to #3. Booker for #3, straight up deal. Phoenix presses restart again with #1 and #3. Cavs think Booker is basically Klay Thompson if you put him with LeBron. Any chance Phoenix is intrigued by that? Booker has one more year left at rookie scale before getting a max. New pick would have 4 years. Phoenix’ current “rebuild” has been a complete disaster of epic proportions. Whiffed on Bender. Warren is overpaid now. Whiffed on Chris’s probably. Early returns on Jackson are poor—-he has a chance to be a nice complimentary piece maybe but his star potential seems unlikely at best right now...


Then again maybe they shouldn’t be trading the one stud they did find for a draft pick if they suck at drafting. They should clear house in the FO too.
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Would want to see who’s there at 3 I’m that scenario. If Doncic slips there for example, I think the Cavs have to snag him and never look back, he might be better than Booker already. Probably would want to take Jackson as well, he’s just too good a fit - especially having the ability to bring back Hood as a potentially long-term solution at SG. If you have to pick a developmental big like Ayton or Bamba at that spot... yeah, I could see a trade being attractive.
Truth is, though, this draft seems so loaded that it’s hard to imagine not having great options at no. 3.
 
gourimoko said:
Cavs should really consider a George S&T... even if it means getting under the apron for a single-year. We're not scheduled to be THAT far above the apron next season and we only have LeBron and Hood as impending free agents, and I'd assume in such a scenario that we're not bringing any drafted players back.

If the Cavs could send out Love, Hill, Thompson, and Smith and not re-sign Hood, or S&T him; that's $72.7M in outbound salary. Assuming LeBron would be okay doing a Durant-esque 1+1 pay cut, then the Cavs could then bring back two max contracts, and still be under the apron. We'd have no exceptions and be hard capped, but, we'd have a "Big 3." FWIW...

The only question here is, who do you try to go out and get?

If you can get George and Beal (a combined $55.73M), then I think you have to do it. You'd just have to either start LeBron at PG, start Clarkson, or save some room to find a vet PG in that amount of space, all of which, I think might be viable solutions.
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So who's on the roster in this scenario?
 
gourimoko said:
Cavs should really consider a George S&T... even if it means getting under the apron for a single-year. We're not scheduled to be THAT far above the apron next season and we only have LeBron and Hood as impending free agents, and I'd assume in such a scenario that we're not bringing any drafted players back.

If the Cavs could send out Love, Hill, Thompson, and Smith and not re-sign Hood, or S&T him; that's $72.7M in outbound salary. Assuming LeBron would be okay doing a Durant-esque 1+1 pay cut, then the Cavs could then bring back two max contracts, and still be under the apron. We'd have no exceptions and be hard capped, but, we'd have a "Big 3." FWIW...

The only question here is, who do you try to go out and get?

If you can get George and Beal (a combined $55.73M), then I think you have to do it. You'd just have to either start LeBron at PG, start Clarkson, or save some room to find a vet PG in that amount of space, all of which, I think might be viable solutions.
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How would it be possible to send out Love, Hill, Thompson, and Smith without taking any salary back?
 
czvo said:
So who's on the roster in this scenario?
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That depends, but we'd be fairly thin I suppose.. if we could keep Rodney Hood then that'd make things a lot easier. You could roll out a lineup of

Clarkson/(Calderon?)
Beal/Hood/Korver
George/Osman/Korver
James/Green
Nance/Zizic

Obviously you'd want another PG and definitely another center; but, as a core group of players, I'd be pretty confident with this lineup.

You could also try to shore up your PG issues against certain lineups with the following:

LeBron/Clarkson
Beal/Korver
Hood/Osman/Korver
George/Green
Nance/Zizic

A lineup like this might make sense if you'd prefer Clarkson coming off the bench, or to create matchup issues that would allow the taller wings like LeBron, Hood, and George to exploit, especially with an athletic big like Nance in the PnR.

But these lineups assume you could get Hood for ~$10M and have James take a Durant-like paycut.
 
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