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MGMT said:
I’m tired of the “loves football” being a positive characteristic or selling point.

How many of these players have been playing their entire fucking life? And it wasn’t obvious enough that a vast majority have loved it merely by getting themselves to this point?
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There honestly have been guys who don't, and some who do but not as much as some others. And some are just more diligent football junkie'\s when it comes to film work, practices, and the weight room than are others. Jake Locker just...stopped. He's obviously an extreme example, but there clearly is a spectrum on how much different guys truly love playing, and everything that goes into it.
 
Now we're left hoping that Tyrod becomes our FQB.

Sigh.
 
Easybreezy said:
Baker and OU can put up 48 on one of the best defenses in college football while Baker goes 23-35 66% for 287 and 2 td's 1 int and that's folding but Darnold can put up only 7 against OSU and go 26-45 58% with No td's and 1 int and no one bats an eye.
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This is the breakdown though between our opinions. You aren't taking system/scheme into account and why things broke down.

Mayfield played behind the best O-Line in college football, and operated a misdirection offense that allowed him to focus on single reads. He RARELY made any progressions.

Darnold played behind a poor O-line, and was asked to dissect defenses, make progressions, and was basically forced into a "hero ball" situation.

When Georgia came out in the second half of the Rose Bowl, and threw assignment football out the window because they were getting killed on misdirection, Mayfield folded. Once his reads were taken away, and the defense committed to collapsing the pocket, it was game over. The first and second halves of that game are night and day. The difference wasn't Mayfield as much as it was Georgia adjusting to what Mayfield does. If you take away his first option, and learn not to bite on the misdirection, you're left with an undersized, but fairly mobile QB. That isn't a #1 pick.
 
God fucking damnit. What a waste of time. It was always going to be Mayfield.
 
Binkster said:
This guy fucking suuuuuuckkkks.
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Timeline:
  • It's Darnold
  • It's Mayfield
  • Maybe it's Allen?
  • It's actually probably Darnold
  • Ok, it's Mayfield
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Whelp. Let's start talking ourselves into Baker Mayfield.
 
AZ_ said:
I truly couldn't imagine a worse fit for what Hue Jackson has put on tape over the last two seasons.
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Good thing he’s not calling the plays now?
 
billmac91 said:
This is the breakdown though between our opinions. You aren't taking system/scheme into account and why things broke down.

Mayfield played behind the best O-Line in college football, and operated a misdirection offense that allowed him to focus on single reads. He RARELY made any progressions.

Darnold played behind a poor O-line, and was asked to dissect defenses, make progressions, and was basically forced into a "hero ball" situation.

When Georgia came out in the second half of the Rose Bowl, and threw assignment football out the window because they were getting killed on misdirection, Mayfield folded. Once his reads were taken away, and the defense committed to collapsing the pocket, it was game over. The first and second halves of that game are night and day. The difference wasn't Mayfield as much as it was Georgia adjusting to what Mayfield does. If you take away his first option, and learn not to bite on the misdirection, you're left with an undersized, but fairly mobile QB. That isn't a #1 pick.
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Okay, playing Devil's Advocate here....

Are you describing a limitation of Oklahoma's offense, or a limitation of Mayfield himself? Just because that offense didn't require him to go through progressions does not prove that he would be unable to do so in an offense that was structured differently. If the reports that he was a white-board whiz and has a photographic memory are true, then perhaps the staff believes he will be able to learn/adjust to a different offense that requires more focus on progressions.
 
Triplethreat said:
It’s not hard.

Just watch the tape.
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Well... we should all admit that watching the Oklahoma/Georgia game and living and dying on the Baker Bandwagon was fun as hell.

Let's just hope we have more ups than downs at the next level.
 
billmac91 said:
This is the breakdown though between our opinions. You aren't taking system/scheme into account and why things broke down.

Mayfield played behind the best O-Line in college football, and operated a misdirection offense that allowed him to focus on single reads. He RARELY made any progressions.

Darnold played behind a poor O-line, and was asked to dissect defenses, make progressions, and was basically forced into a "hero ball" situation.

When Georgia came out in the second half of the Rose Bowl, and threw assignment football out the window because they were getting killed on misdirection, Mayfield folded. Once his reads were taken away, and the defense committed to collapsing the pocket, it was game over. The first and second halves of that game are night and day. The difference wasn't Mayfield as much as it was Georgia adjusting to what Mayfield does. If you take away his first option, and learn not to bite on the misdirection, you're left with an undersized, but fairly mobile QB. That isn't a #1 pick.
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Love getting flamed for openenly liking Mayfield and trying to support why...just because it's not the popular vote on here, yet sounds like alot of people that do it for a living and get paid to do might agree. If you watch his tape, ya, alot of the time it was a single read offense, but plenty of times Baker goes through his reads when the first option is taken away.
 
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