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I really don't think it's fair to go back on drafts and go you miss this guy, you miss that guy.. It's REALLY easy to do this and you can say this about every single team.

2014? We drafted Andrew Wiggins over Joel Embiid.
Embiid had a lot of questions on his injuries and he sat two years.. Two years... People seem to forget that. The Cavs had a few good young players and Wiggins was considered by many to be the number one prospect that year.

2013? We drafted Anthony Bennett over Victor Oladipo (some idiot in an IU Hoosiers cap looked up from his pork tenderloin while I typed this), and Giannis Antetokounmpo,

Orlando traded Olidpo and OKC traded him. Three years at Orlando and one year at OKC and he was a good piece but not an All-Star. He shot an average of .433 and averaged 15.7 points with 4.1 rebounds and 3.6 assists. It wasn't until he got to Indiana where he was the main man where he really flourished. 14 other teams passed on Giannis. That draft was pretty weak.

2012? Dion Waiters over Damian Lillard, Andre Drummond, and Draymond Green

Green lasted until the second round so it's not like NBA teams knew he'd be this good. Drummond had a lot of questions and you already had Kyrie Irving so why draft another point guard in Lillard? They needed a SG, C, and a SF. They went with a SG. Drummond could have worked, but you know about how he was unplayable near the end of games until recently when his free throw shooting was horrendous.

2011? Well I mean you nailed Kyrie Irving, and Thompson probably helped you contribute to a championship. HOWEVER....you passed on the likes of Klay Thompson, Kawhi Leonard, and Jimmy Butler.

Cavs tried to get back into the first round to get Klay... https://basketball.realgm.com/wiret...pson-By-Dealing-For-Third-Top-10-Pick-In-2011
Jimmy Butler averaged just under 3 points the first year and 9 points the second year. And he was the last pick of the first round so again, almost everyone but one team passed on him.
And really did anyone see Kawhi being this type of player except for Pop? He fell down to 15th and Indiana gave him up for George Hill. In fact, at the time of the trade, people were saying Indiana won the trade.
 
Why are we talking bad drafting

The Cavs front office are known for being top 5 worst ran

There is no discussion

The league sees us as a joke and they should

Our front office deserve it
 
Why are we talking bad drafting

The Cavs front office are known for being top 5 worst ran

There is no discussion

The league sees us as a joke and they should

Our front office deserve it
You can’t put picks of the past regime on the current one.
 
Didnt we originally draft Green and then traded him away on draft day?
 
You can’t put picks of the past regime on the current one.
Promoting assistants to replace their incompetent bosses isn't exactly "new". It's more like cutting a worm in half. At some point you need to cut bait and find a new worm.
 
Cavs injected a bunch of youth at midseason. its a bit different than when you bring in a bunch of vets midseason as Chemistry can take some time.

Clarkson Hood and Nance was just not a group of guys ready to be a bench brigade as Lue wanted to use them.

Cavs need to make some changes this offseason with the infusion of returning youth and the new additions. Such as practicing and revaluating their use of analytics. They also need to go with Love lineup ( if they keep him) when Lebron is off the court.

If Lebron does leave then I fully expect Love to be moved
 
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Is this confirmed ("Decision III")?
I mean, if he makes a production out of leaving AGAIN... wow.

I do not mind him leaving but if dude makes another big production out of it I hope he never finds that 4th ring
 
Is this confirmed ("Decision III")?
I mean, if he makes a production out of leaving AGAIN... wow.
I do not mind him leaving but if dude makes another big production out of it I hope he never finds that 4th ring
I think that's just Sheridan saying that.

Technically Decision 2.0 happened with the Sports Illustrated letter.
 

I just don't buy the claims that he's definitely leaving. To go anywhere I feel Lebron needs to be really fucking confident that wherever he's going to will beat the Warriors and a lot of dominos need to fall for that to happen. Makes no sense to go somewhere else and lose to the Warriors in the finals - he can do that here without losing the opportunity to re-evaluate the landscape of the NBA next offseason.

Most logical scenario to me would be a 1 year deal with the Cavs and he'll re-evaluate next offseason. If he goes to LA - feels like they'll just lose in the WCF instead of the Finals.
 
I just don't buy the claims that he's definitely leaving. To go anywhere I feel Lebron needs to be really fucking confident that wherever he's going to will beat the Warriors and a lot of dominos need to fall for that to happen. Makes no sense to go somewhere else and lose to the Warriors in the finals - he can do that here without losing the opportunity to re-evaluate the landscape of the NBA next offseason.

Most logical scenario to me would be a 1 year deal with the Cavs and he'll re-evaluate next offseason. If he goes to LA - feels like they'll just lose in the WCF instead of the Finals.

That one year allows him to re-evaluate or wait for Kawhi to get to LA

I am fine with that as long as we do not trade the youth we have, he is either gone this year or next year

I am not buying the July 6, decision either. How does he know it will be wrapped up by then. That is saying something is a done deal...mostly likely that he is staying for the one year so Bronny can finish middle school at home
 

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