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Game Thread | Game #47 | Warriors @ Cavs | Jan. 20, 2023

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Tlyons said:
Garland just running around on offense all game with no set plays in sight.
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This offense runs at a disgustingly slow pace with little off-ball movement. This makes garland have to work super hard to try and create something, leading to bad possessions. I'm finding it hard to blame the players, JBB is that bad.
 
Phil Mixtape said:
Although extremely pathetic and embarrassing, losses like this get us that much closer to a new coach. Where you at Quin???
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A part of me is happy to see a loss like this, for this reason. If anything they’ve gotten away with some terrible habits and they are much worse than their record.

Now, bigger picture, I need to see what Okoro and Mobley can do, win or lose. Get them involved. I’d like to see Mobley make some improvements on his aggressiveness on the defensive boards. Seems if you box him out with 1 lb of force he’s out of the picture.
 
Rich said:
With Garland? THey've been a .500 ball club, and that includes the two worst losses of the season. This one and to San Antonio. Meanwhile, their two best wins of the season were w/o him.
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I don’t know how many times I have to remind you that Garland played against Boston.

Likewise, you’re going to let an 11 game sample erase a season last year where Garland was our only offensive engine and showed to be one of the bright young stars in the NBA?

It’s unfathomable. Donovan is our best player, but a team needs more than one shot creator. Garland is probably our primary shot creator and the comfort in the back court has grown as the season has progressed.

We’re still talking about the first half of an NBA season. For example, in that small sample, Donovan was on a heater—no matter who else was on the floor. He’s been coming back to his career numbers of late, as was to be expected.

The take that we’re better without Garland is the definition of reactionary at best, the ravings of a madman at worst.
 
benchplayer said:
This offense runs at a disgustingly slow pace with little off-ball movement. This makes garland have to work super hard to try and create something, leading to bad possessions. I'm finding it hard to blame the players, JBB is that bad.
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I agree, but DG is part of the pace problem.
 
Real Deal said:
We got shit on by a 5-18 team on the road without their MVP, and 3 All-Stars.

Something ain't right, and I'm not putting this one on the players.
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There’s so much blame to go around that this should be put on the players, coaches, dance team, old fart dancers and the shitty popcorn. Only decent entertainment was the performance painter at halftime.
 
dark2332 said:
Not when his head coach is pleading with him to slow it down.

JBB is on record stating it’s impossible for this team to play slow enough to satisfy him.

He wants to be Wisconsin basketball.
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If that's true then I retract that statement.
 
Lil Z said:
I hope the reports of the cavaliers potentially staying pat at the deadline are not true. Outside of coaching staff issues we have a serious personnel issue that we must address if we are to take the next leap and try to make the Eastern conference finals.
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Hard to make the ECF when you don’t make the playoffs.
 
dark2332 said:
I don’t know how many times I have to remind you that Garland played against Boston.

Likewise, you’re going to let an 11 game sample erase a season last year where Garland was our only offensive engine and showed to be one of the bright young stars in the NBA?

It’s unfathomable. Donovan is our best player, but a team needs more than one shot creator. Garland is probably our primary shot creator and the comfort in the back court has grown as the season has progressed.

We’re still talking about the first half of an NBA season. For example, in that small sample, Donovan was on a heater—no matter who else was on the floor. He’s been coming back to his career numbers of late, as was to be expected.

The take that we’re better without Garland is the definition of reactionary at best, the ravings of a madman at worst.
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No. Last season was last season. I'm telling you that for this NBA season, this team has been better without Darius Garland. Last year's roster was a different roster better built to maximize Garland's talents and hide his issues.

This roster is not and now this offensive "system" we run to go along with the new roster has made Garland, largely, a low impact player compared to his max extension.

Again, I do think Garland has been a tad overrated on this board, but right now, neither the roster or the coaching is making the necessary moves to make him a big time net positive.

The style JBB coaches? Team is probably legitimately better with Mitchell playing point full time and having a bigger backcourt mate with him. That's how I honestly feel. JBB's slow, grind it out, isolation, defense, defense, defense system is not gonna ever get the best out of a Garland/Mitchell backcourt and simply isn't suited for it at all.
 
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