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2023 Cleveland Browns - Regular Season Thread

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CBBI said:
Are you going to give up a 2nd round pick for somebody like Kirk Cousins only to stick him back on the bench in X weeks when Watson's healed up and ready to go?
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What’s your magic number of X here that moves the needle and makes you willing to do this trade?

For me it’s 3. And I say that confidently feeling Cousins would contribute more in the 3 (or more) games he starts for the browns than Moore will in his Cleveland career for the same compensation
 
Real Deal said:
1-2 games sounds off at this point. We're dealing with a season long kind of thing now and this defense deserves such a safety blanket move. Brissett makes the most cheap sense in comparison to Cousins.
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Again, having not specifically done my rotator cuff, these type shoulder injuries are usually literally week to week if not even day to day. You can wake up one morning and feel significantly better than the previous 2 weeks.

Once Deshaun feels he's fit enough to go, whether that be in 4 days time or 4 weeks time, I don't expect this to be a season lingering injury unless either he forces himself through it, or uses it as an excuse.
 
Since he’s already missed multiple games, playing him after not practicing also sounds like setting him and the team up for failure. Maybe Stefanski sits with Walker in the film session from San Fran and the feedback “stop making ******* throws” hits home.
 
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MGMT said:
Since he’s already missed multiple games, playing him after not practicing also sounds like setting him and the team up for failure. Maybe Stefanski sits with Walker in the film session from San Fran and the feedback “stop making ******* throws” hits home.
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Who sits with Stefanski and explains to him that’s it’s a stupid decision to throw on 3rd down when we’re trying to run the clock out?
 
Asking Walker to be better than he was on Sunday is kinda asking a camel to be a horse

There’s a reason he was on the practice squad. if you’re a fantasy football enthusiast, grab Hopkins in the interim. converting to touchdowns with Walker at QB is going to be excruciatingly difficult
 
My experience with a shoulder injury to a throwing shoulder isn’t that you can’t play with it, as in throw. It is that the instability from the injury makes re-occurrence so high, it is only a matter of time (think quarters, not games) before he’ll just be out again. He’ll just take a hit he’s trying to avoid and that will be the end of it.

Unfortunately, you kind of just need to keep your head above water any way you can and then hope he can get it healed enough to survive the grind of the rest of the season.

Our med staff definitely did him dirty though if his shoulder is bothering him this much. Saying he was “medically cleared” just has made all parties look bad here.

After watching Walker play, I’d honestly rather play Colt with 3 days of prep. I am 100% sure he can play at a higher level than PJ and also just avoid the insanely idiotic throws PJ was making.
 
The Wizard of Moz said:
What’s your magic number of X here that moves the needle and makes you willing to do this trade?

For me it’s 3. And I say that confidently feeling Cousins would contribute more in the 3 (or more) games he starts for the browns than Moore will in his Cleveland career for the same compensation
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For me? There isn't a number.

I would not trade a 2nd round pick for any available QB this season.
 
CBBI said:
So it's now Wednesday. This week's game is obviously out of the question for an incoming QB. Next week's is a stretch too unless they bring someone in literally by like tomorrow.

Are Carson Wentz, Colt McCoy or Joe Flacco trying to learn a new offense in 3 days going to be better than PJ Walker?

Are you going to give up a 2nd round pick for somebody like Kirk Cousins only to stick him back on the bench in two weeks when Watson's healed up and ready to go?

I get that Walker and DTR are both bad, but that's just the way it goes sometimes. There aren't 50 capable QBs out there and Watson's gonna be back on the field seemingly worst case in the next 2 weeks.

Just feels like a grin and bear it situation.
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chrisrich91 said:
Here's the problem...

How much longer is he going to be out. Sounds like 50/50 on this week and then 80% likely to play next week?

The amount of time to execute a trade for a better backup QB and get him up to speed with the playbook would likely take longer than the amount of time we're trying to cover for Watson.

Brissett is probably the best attainable option because he's well versed with what we did here last year. If the Browns knew this was going to drag up to 4 weeks including the bye and DTR would completely shit the bed in his opportunity, I would hope they would have kicked the tires on Brissett at the time.

Just a weird injury with a weird, uncertain recovery timeline...really annoying situation.
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At this point, I'm operating under the assumption that Watson's season is effectively over and the Browns should do the same.

Maybe this comes across as extremely pessimistic, but absolutely nothing about this situation tells me that Watson will be playing at a high level anytime soon given the circumstances.

To me, the question should be: Do the Browns go with the band-aid option (Brissett) or go all-in with Captain Kirk? Or, do we just sit around and watch our season go down the drain with PJ Walker?
 
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