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DDJ7777 said:
In the 1st quarter alone.
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In the 1st quarter alone.
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Damn, we got hammered. Although we did hold Phoenix to 109 points... 
Here's the thing, though: Phoenix's floor spacing was killing the Cavs all night. They can spread guys way out in space and give Nash room to beat Hughes/Snow/whoever off the dribble or dish to someone moving around a pick. Help defense is that much slower to come over because of the spacing, and guys are sitting wide open 18 or 20 feet away. And the Suns have guys that can hit those shots. The ones that can't know to cut to the hole.
What they were doing didn't seem very complicated... but that's coming from a layman. In any event, it was definitely effective.
So much for our vaunted defense.
The book is out on the Cavs:
1. Eric Snow is horrible (no secret there). 2 pts (1 for 4), 2 TOs, 1 rebound, 1 assist, 0 for 2 at the foul line. Folks, that's not a starting NBA point guard, I don't care what anyone says. God bless him, but this guy has got to stop starting for this team.
2. Make LeBron shoot jumpshots. He gets impatient and tries to do everything himself. If he had ONE FREAKIN TEAMMATE who was consistent, maybe he'd pass. Maybe. I think last year's series against the Pistons ruined him, especially that final game, because at some point he realized that he really was by himself. He may never recover from that, and we may see LeBron continually hoist crap when we're down. I wish also that the other night (consecutive threes to get us back in the game) never happened. Agh.
3. Mike Brown does not have a whole lot of offensive options (and really still has no clue of what to do offensively), and while he has a good concept of what defense he wants to employ, we just don't have the pieces to consistently play that kind of defense. Take Snow or Hughes off the floor and you are simply in trouble defensively. Even with them on the floor you have trouble defensively against a team like the Suns... Phoenix had a total of 13 turnovers for the game but by some point deep into the 2nd they had ZERO. Not the mark of a great Cavs defense.
4. When in trouble, foul the Cavs, because, besides Z, they suck at the line.'
Thats it. LeBron will be able to will us through a few playoff games, and a few guys will have good nights, but if you expect a team that is capable of playing this poorly on any given night to win the conference, you guys are smoking something.
Here's the thing, though: Phoenix's floor spacing was killing the Cavs all night. They can spread guys way out in space and give Nash room to beat Hughes/Snow/whoever off the dribble or dish to someone moving around a pick. Help defense is that much slower to come over because of the spacing, and guys are sitting wide open 18 or 20 feet away. And the Suns have guys that can hit those shots. The ones that can't know to cut to the hole.
What they were doing didn't seem very complicated... but that's coming from a layman. In any event, it was definitely effective.
So much for our vaunted defense.
The book is out on the Cavs:
1. Eric Snow is horrible (no secret there). 2 pts (1 for 4), 2 TOs, 1 rebound, 1 assist, 0 for 2 at the foul line. Folks, that's not a starting NBA point guard, I don't care what anyone says. God bless him, but this guy has got to stop starting for this team.
2. Make LeBron shoot jumpshots. He gets impatient and tries to do everything himself. If he had ONE FREAKIN TEAMMATE who was consistent, maybe he'd pass. Maybe. I think last year's series against the Pistons ruined him, especially that final game, because at some point he realized that he really was by himself. He may never recover from that, and we may see LeBron continually hoist crap when we're down. I wish also that the other night (consecutive threes to get us back in the game) never happened. Agh.
3. Mike Brown does not have a whole lot of offensive options (and really still has no clue of what to do offensively), and while he has a good concept of what defense he wants to employ, we just don't have the pieces to consistently play that kind of defense. Take Snow or Hughes off the floor and you are simply in trouble defensively. Even with them on the floor you have trouble defensively against a team like the Suns... Phoenix had a total of 13 turnovers for the game but by some point deep into the 2nd they had ZERO. Not the mark of a great Cavs defense.
4. When in trouble, foul the Cavs, because, besides Z, they suck at the line.'
Thats it. LeBron will be able to will us through a few playoff games, and a few guys will have good nights, but if you expect a team that is capable of playing this poorly on any given night to win the conference, you guys are smoking something.
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crazedcav333 said:
The game was over at the end of the 3rd and we were down by 32. Lebron played half of the 4th quarter for some unfathomable reason and poured in 14 points when Phoe was done trying. Nash was on the bench most of the quarter....and only played 30 minutes. Lebron played 40 freaking minutes, I have no idea why.
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^^^Thanks for the recap. I must have read the stats on Nash wrong.
I agree Max. I have no idea why LeBron was on the floor in the 4th quarter. It made absolutely no sense. I don't know what the hell Mike Brown was thinking there.
Cavs were destoyed last night. All their negatives and weaknesses came out once again all at once. How they were playing on the recent streak completely disappeared. They didn't do anything they needed to do to have a chance to win and played right into the Suns hands.
No Cav played well, not even LeBron. He padded his stats when he went on a little hot streak long after the outcome had been decided. Prior to that he rarely attacked the basket and settled for jacking up bad deep jumpers.
LeBron also ground the offense to a halt last night by repeatedly pounding the ball and running down the shotclock while rarely looking to run any offense.
Ferry and Gilbert can't go into next season without doing something to improve the PG play. If they do then their stay the course strategy should be ripped apart if they truly are claiming to be trying to do all the can to try to win a championship(s).
Cavs were destoyed last night. All their negatives and weaknesses came out once again all at once. How they were playing on the recent streak completely disappeared. They didn't do anything they needed to do to have a chance to win and played right into the Suns hands.
No Cav played well, not even LeBron. He padded his stats when he went on a little hot streak long after the outcome had been decided. Prior to that he rarely attacked the basket and settled for jacking up bad deep jumpers.
LeBron also ground the offense to a halt last night by repeatedly pounding the ball and running down the shotclock while rarely looking to run any offense.
Ferry and Gilbert can't go into next season without doing something to improve the PG play. If they do then their stay the course strategy should be ripped apart if they truly are claiming to be trying to do all the can to try to win a championship(s).