The Lebron Safari 2014

[Chris]

Lebron says what he says because it's good for his image. Just because he says he loves Cleveland and it would be fun to play in front of the fans again doesn't give any credibility to the notion that he wants to come back here. What's he going to say instead? "No, I wouldn't want to go back to play there because Cleveland sucks." If he was asked if he would consider playing for the Lakers he would say the exact same thing. If anything, Kyrie would leave here to go play where ever Lebron is.

Trust me, there are ways for him to say exactly that without actually saying it.

[pr26]

I refuse to discuss this until the summer of 2014.

[blue_kahuna]

Wut. I'm 23.

I've been fucked over plenty of times. Each person that did that to me did it in a way that is way way more serious than an athlete choosing to play basketball in another city and running a TV special to announce it.

Really, I could have respected almost any other response...not the "you're too young to understand" response. That stuff is bitch made and I know you've got better reasoning than that somewhere.



This is just killing me. So now we shouldn't get anybody in free agency because it would be like "expecting victory" and not earning it?

My OSU degree is what makes me think it's okay to get free agents to help the Cavaliers win? Just...what the hell is going on here?

I played sports growing up. The object of the game was always to win. You act like I'm a Heat fan or a LeBron fan or something. I don't like the Heat at all, in fact I have a great disdain for them. That has nothing to do with LeBron coming back and donning a Cavaliers jersey, though. I would totally accept that and I don't see why doing so makes it like an episode of Jerry Springer.

I still don't get why you think people that don't want him back haven't "gotten over it". I eluded to the fact that the reason was because you were still young....you say you're 23? To the majority, that's relatively young. Not everyone has the mentality of "win at all cost". I would like my team leader to be a person that I want to cheer for.

[Chris]

I still don't get why you think people that don't want him back haven't "gotten over it". I eluded to the fact that the reason was because you were still young....you say you're 23? To the majority, that's relatively young. Not everyone has the mentality of "win at all cost". I would like my team leader to be a person that I want to cheer for.

I would want to cheer for James, if he came back and donned a Cleveland jersey and played for my city, my home, in an attempt to bring us a title. I'd consider it his second chance, so to speak.

[Lottery God]

WHOA calm down here.

LeBron will not be better at 33 than he is right now, but he also might not have fallen off a cliff. Truly it depends on how he is able to adapt to the decline in athletecism, and if what we are seeing now is any indication of how he will age then he will age fairly well like Kobe. He's moved into the post more, and improved his jumper a lot over the years. I can see him aging very well, but again it really depends on his adaptation to the decline in his athletecism because he still has it at this point, so he can rely on it at times if the other things fail.

I've actually thought in detail about how long LeBron could possibly last in the league and when he would start declining, and I'll share what I've come up with.

First off, LeBron is possibly the most freakish physical specimen of all time. NO ONE has ever had his combination of size, speed, agility, endurance, hops, and strength. Not even Michael Jordan (although he did have LeBron on hops, but that's about it). But these things don't necessarily indicate a long-lasting career. The one thing that I think will make LeBron last for a long, long time is his body's unprecedented durability (resistance to injury) and healing/recovery ability. It's unreal how durable his body is. I've never seen anything like it. His genetics are just one-of-a-kind. Combined with his basketball IQ, I think he will at worst adapt and be just as good in his early to mid 30s as he is now if his athleticism starts to fall by that point kinda like Kobe is doing now, but he'll do it even better. At best, I think LeBron will be better in his early to mid 30s than he is now like Jordan. I think LeBron will have that same freakish stamina in his upper 30s and even into his 40s that Michael had. I think he can be that 20ppg+ player at 40 like Michael was. LeBron is just a once-in-a-generation player.

[Mdog1]

I've actually thought in detail about how long LeBron could possibly last in the league and when he would start declining, and I'll share what I've come up with.

First off, LeBron is possibly the most freakish physical specimen of all time. NO ONE has ever had his combination of size, speed, agility, endurance, hops, and strength. Not even Michael Jordan (although he did have LeBron on hops, but that's about it). But these things don't necessarily indicate a long-lasting career. The one thing that I think will make LeBron last for a long, long time is his body's unprecedented durability (resistance to injury) and healing/recovery ability. It's unreal how durable his body is. I've never seen anything like it. His genetics are just one-of-a-kind. Combined with his basketball IQ, I think he will at worst adapt and be just as good in his early to mid 30s as he is now if his athleticism starts to fall by that point kinda like Kobe is doing now, but he'll do it even better. At best, I think LeBron will be better in his early to mid 30s than he is now like Jordan. I think LeBron will have that same freakish stamina in his upper 30s and even into his 40s that Michael had. I think he can be that 20ppg+ player at 40 like Michael was. LeBron is just a once-in-a-generation player.

I could see him hitting 20ppg in his late 30's, but unlike Jordan LeBron would have played 22 years when he is 40, which is obviously a ton of games, and minutes. If he were to play until he is 40 he wouldn't have anything to prove anymore. We've seen that he will position himself to win titles when he is a free agent, so let's just say 3 titles (1 Heat/1 Next team/1 team after that), he would be well over 40k points, possibly very close to Stockton's assist record, well over 10k rebounds, possibly the NBA's steal record. He could stick around just to prove he can hang with 20 year olds in his 40's I guess lol.

[Frank Reynolds]

I am not looking at LeBron to be our savior, I really am not. I wish that we could do it without him, but in reality I think that it could be next to impossible. Sorry, I'm just pessimistic, especially considering our future drafting positions. Every GM makes mistakes, even the vaunted Sam Presti has made some mistakes that hasn't exactly crippled the OKC franchise or their title run.

I think Chris Grant is a decent GM, but I'm not expecting him to be some flawless GM that has the magic formula.

Presti has two of the most elite players in the game. The Cavs only have one, and I'm not sure where the other part of our equation is going to come from.

He's gonna get his set of downs, so to speak and we'll see what his +/- is at the end of it all. We'll have to see how he judges talent, how he parlays our assets into pieces, and if he can use the cap to bring in effective players at a good value, who will positively impact our product on the court, and our legitness going forward as we build a hopeful title contender.

I'm just not sold on Chris Grant batting 1000. There will be little margin of error for him. We will always have the weakness of being an undesirable city, so we're going to have to pay a price for that somehow. It just gives us even less margin for error. Make enough bonehead moves like David Kahn, and you might as well just liquidate because your screwed, it's over.

LeBron makes the title much more likely, I don't like the guy at all, but it's strictly business, and my business is giving the city of Cleveland the best odds to win it all. I also think it would be highly entertaining hoops like we have never seen here before featuring two basketball prodigys. I could see trophy's coming from that formula....... two fuckin basketball prodigies...... even better than OKC's elite two.

Wouldn't even have to like the mother fucker. If he entertains you, that's good..... that's his job, is to put a ball through a hoop....

We wouldn't even need to be obsessive fans like we once were, getting involved in the guys personal life and shit. He's just another entertainer. Be entertained, and try'n ensure us Clevelanders the highest probability of bringing home a chip'

[Pyro]

I still can't get over the fact that someone called Jay-Z this generation's Frank Sinatra.

[Rondo]

Frank Reynolds smokes way too much weed. "Our GM is prone to making mistakes, so LeBron is our only answer." No, he's not. Suck his dick more.

[Tlyons]

I think he'll be 31 with bad knees and a couple rings. But we won't know until he signs here and then he'll get fat and impregnate a whole hell of a lot of women.

[gourimoko]

Frank Reynolds smokes way too much weed. "Our GM is prone to making mistakes, so LeBron is our only answer." No, he's not. Suck his dick more.

I literally laughed so hard when reading this that I woke up my girlfriend...

[sgm405]

I still can't get over the fact that someone called Jay-Z this generation's Frank Sinatra.

I missed it, who the hell said that?????

[JiggleIt]

I literally laughed so hard when reading this that I woke up my girlfriend...

Please don't use the world girlfriend. Please stick to the hoes and the bitches you're used to. I know that you're gonna have it your way or nothing at all, but I think you're getting too soft. Gettin too soft.

[gourimoko]

Please don't use the world girlfriend. Please stick to the hoes and the bitches you're used to. I know that you're gonna have it your way or nothing at all, but I think you're getting too soft. Gettin too soft.

It did feel awkward using the word "girlfriend." Like I'm five years old or some shit... My first instinct went to "my bitch," then to "ole girl," but I wasn't drunk enough to resort to colloquialisms just yet... Maybe it's "Low T?"



Time to get back on cycle...

[JiggleIt]

It did feel awkward using the word "girlfriend." Like I'm five years old or some shit... My first instinct went to "my bitch," then to "ole girl," but I wasn't drunk enough to resort to colloquialisms just yet... Maybe it's "Low T?"




Time to get back on cycle...

Used to work with guys who sold low t drugs. They were all pussies.