The Lebron Safari 2014

[RTrees]

Why do we believe LeBron wants to leave Miami? A Jason Lloyd article? A Cleveland based agent? Wasn't he talking about winning...how many was it?... many championships there?

I understand the home thing, and the we have cap space thing.. but didn't we JUST go through this with LeBron? Waiting on a decision is now a good plan, after all that?

If he wants to come back... GREAT. He knows how to reach us. But chasing the guy and holding off on a future just in case he's available seems absolutely mfn insane to me. If 2014 is a good year to get somebody, I understand our waiting. But it can't just be for one guy.

If he really wants to play here, chasing him and selling him on the idea of returning need not be part of the process.

[cafemerald]

I have always been a big advocate against LBJ returning.

However recently I have started to change my mind. In my younger years I have always thought that people in general had the same trains of thought. I mean why wouldn't I? The people that influence you how to think like you do are those you surround yourself with. So those closest to you were raised to think in a similar fashion. To a lesser extent, the community usually has similar self serving interests.

However, recently, with the advent of cameras everywhere I have realized how drastically different I would be if I was raised in a different environment. This video here is a prime example. Pay close attention to the children:




The kids don't have a chance. It is disgusting. Only a small portion of people could be raised in this environment and turn into normal self respecting adults. I sure as hell know that I wouldn't be anywhere where I am at today if I was raised around these people. It's mind boggling how different they are personality-wise to my own thinking.

I think a lot of people are ignoring this fact. People want to blame James for his self centered personality. The entire reason he acted that was is because he was taught that it is normal to be self centered. I am sure he thought that was human nature, and people would support it. It is only his life experiences that have showed him otherwise. After much thought on the subject, I do not necessarily blame him for acting that way. He has come a long way. He was pretty much raised in the NBA and in the limelight. That is a hard place to act selfless when everyone is showering you with attention and praise.

The same can be said for Gilbert and how he ran the organization. Both Gilbert and LeBron have learned from their actions and it is apparent that the people they were are not the people they wish to be. And for that, I can accept LeBron back if he wishes to come.

[Chris]

Why do we believe LeBron wants to leave Miami? A Jason Lloyd article? A Cleveland based agent? Wasn't he talking about winning...how many was it?... many championships there?

I understand the home thing, and the we have cap space thing.. but didn't we JUST go through this with LeBron? Waiting on a decision is now a good plan, after all that?

If he wants to come back... GREAT. He knows how to reach us. But chasing the guy and holding off on a future just in case he's available seems absolutely mfn insane to me. If 2014 is a good year to get somebody, I understand our waiting. But it can't just be for one guy.

If he really wants to play here, chasing him and selling him on the idea of returning need not be part of the process.

2014 is a great target year for a variety of reasons. #6 is only one.

[shoes22]

LOL. Who cares what Kyrie wants. I know he wants to win and that's all I need to know. Everything else is a non issue to me and to the front office I am sure. You think he'd leave the Cavs or something if we brought LeBron back and the team started contending for titles? lmfao.

I didn't say that it would make Kyrie leave, all I said was when it comes to adding players, LeBron coming back probably isn't his first choice.

[Jack Brickman]

Why do we believe LeBron wants to leave Miami? A Jason Lloyd article? A Cleveland based agent? Wasn't he talking about winning...how many was it?... many championships there?

He also said that his one goal was to win a championship in Cleveland and that he wasn't going to leave until he did. Then he left. Do you think he gives a shit about the Miami fans? They're terrible fans to begin with. The Cleveland fans were great and he didn't give a shit about them.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: LeBron will do what is in the best interests of LeBron. If he thinks his best shot to keep winning titles as his career winds down is to come here and play with Kyrie and the rest of our young core, he'll come here. If he thinks his best shot is staying in Miami, he'll do that. All Cleveland really needs to do is put themselves in a position where they look like his best option.

[Pyro]

I didn't say that it would make Kyrie leave, all I said was when it comes to adding players, LeBron coming back probably isn't his first choice.

Here's the thing, again, nobody gives a shit what his first choice is, or his second choice, third, fourth, and so on.

[Chris]

LeBron, a guy that is supposedly his friend and mentor, isn't his first choice? I'd be surprised. Oh, best player in the game too.

[Marcus]

LeBron, a guy that is supposedly his friend and mentor, isn't his first choice? I'd be surprised. Oh, best player in the game too.

But hey, being the alpha > being a consistent championship contender.

[col63onel]

He also said that his one goal was to win a championship in Cleveland and that he wasn't going to leave until he did. Then he left. Do you think he gives a shit about the Miami fans? They're terrible fans to begin with. The Cleveland fans were great and he didn't give a shit about them.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: LeBron will do what is in the best interests of LeBron. If he thinks his best shot to keep winning titles as his career winds down is to come here and play with Kyrie and the rest of our young core, he'll come here. If he thinks his best shot is staying in Miami, he'll do that. All Cleveland really needs to do is put themselves in a position where they look like his best option.

Then he should probably go to San Antonio, play with Parker, Ginobili, Duncan and Pop.

[Chris]

Then he should probably go to San Antonio, play with Parker, Ginobili, Duncan and Pop.

Not sure if serious.

[atlbraves]

Yeah, the rationalizing that we wouldn't want LeBron is comical. Some of y'all seem more interested in seeing him fail than seeing the Cavs compete for a title. I just want to win, I couldn't care less whether or not we spite #6 in the process. And to be honest, I think it will be exponentially more difficult to win as long as LeBron is playing on a team other than the Cavs.

I know that LeBron-back-to-Cleveland is very, very far from set in stone. If it didn't pan out, it definitely wouldn't be the end of the world. The Cavs are set up to succeed down the road with or without him (through the draft, and through free agency). But for those who wouldn't accept him if he chose to return, I seriously question whether you want this team to compete for championships.

[blue_kahuna]

He's not coming back lol. The pressure would be too great for him to win a ship. Everything that can go wrong will go wrong. I hope he retires in Miami.

[MGMT]

He's not coming back lol. The pressure would be too great for him to win a ship. Everything that can go wrong will go wrong. I hope he retires in Miami.

The pressure is going to be great regardless of what team he's with. Cleveland doesn't increase it - pressure is going to follow the league's best player anywhere.

[blue_kahuna]

The pressure is going to be great regardless of what team he's with. Cleveland doesn't increase it - pressure is going to follow the league's best player anywhere.

The pressure for him to win a ship again in Miami is mitigated by the fact that he already won a ship there. If he goes back to Cleveland, the pressure is greater since the ONLY REASON why he came back is to win a ship for Cleveland. I cannot imagine him having enough testicular fortitude to come back and face such a daunting task.

[Frank Reynolds]

The pressure for him to win a ship again in Miami is mitigated by the fact that he already won a ship there. If he goes back to Cleveland, the pressure is greater since the ONLY REASON why he came back is to win a ship for Cleveland. I cannot imagine him having enough testicular fortitude to come back and face such a daunting task.

I mean that's a very rational argument. I hear where you are coming from. I think James knows how good he can be now. Fact of the matter is he's still never played with a legitimate point guard in his entire career.

Yes, I know, he's a point forward I'll just call him Karl Malone who can dribble anywhere on the floor, jump like Kemp and pass like Magic.

LeBron James is not a point guard. He's a very effective passer, but he's a forward. He should operate in the mid-post or down on the block. His court vision will be with him forever, but still, he's never been in a situation where the ball is out of his hands like Blake Griffin and CP3.

Upgrade CP3's scoring ability to that of Allen Iverson and you have Kyrie Irving. Only Irving is worlds more efficient, he's got the shooting stroke of Chauncey Billups and he's every bit of the scorer of Dwyane Wade.

Granted, Irving is not the floor general and defender that Chris Paul is, but he wouldn't have to be. LeBron can facilitate with the best of them, so it's not a huge concern.

Irving and LeBron would be the best tandem ever. That is going to become more and more blatant as 2014 approaches us. Irving would be the ideal team-mate for James. He's got the 3pt threat that Wade has never had, and he's also got handles like Dwyane has never had. Wade's game is based around physicality, but that's eventually going to become a weak link. Tristan Thompson would also be the ideal efficient garbage man that a team like this would require.

Anderson's injuries are also a blessing in disguise. Think about it 3 years in a row, but the advantage is every season we get a reminder that Anderson's game is still growing, he's still an extremely effective basketball player and his mileage has been severely limited these last couple seasons. Now that he's missed three seasons do we get an extra three years out of him? It's a legitimate question to ask.


The real question is when are the screams going to get louder? People are already thinking about a future James/Irving pairing. When are the Chuck Barkleys, Shaquille O'Neals, Reggie Millers going to start pushing this idea to the mainstream. I have heard it once this season on TNT.