View Poll Results: Who Will Win the 2012 Presidential Election?

Voters
115. You may not vote on this poll
  • Barack Obama

    70 60.87%
  • Mitt Romney

    42 36.52%
  • Electoral College Tie

    3 2.61%
Page 303 of 386 FirstFirst ... 203253293301302303304305313353 ... LastLast
Results 4,531 to 4,545 of 5790
  1. #4531
    Happy Kiddo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    1,385
    Thanks
    117
    Thanked 77 Times in 40 Posts

    Default Re: 2012 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by cavsfan1985 View Post
    How do you cook that?
    You eat it raw bud

  2. The Following User Says Thank You to Kiddo For This Useful Post:


  3. #4532
    Happy Kiddo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    1,385
    Thanks
    117
    Thanked 77 Times in 40 Posts

    Default Re: 2012 Presidential Election

    Obama in 2008 drew crowds of 50k plus in Cleveland now he is drawing 3k?? Mitt is drawing huge crowds. Landslide baby

  4. #4533
    ^ kind of a big deal! cavsfan1985's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Salt Lake City,UT
    Posts
    1,855
    Thanks
    1,555
    Thanked 810 Times in 425 Posts

    Default Re: 2012 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiddo View Post
    Obama in 2008 drew crowds of 50k plus in Cleveland now he is drawing 3k?? Mitt is drawing huge crowds. Landslide baby
    I hope your right. But I have my concerns.

  5. #4534
    Coach's Pet Dog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    OH
    Posts
    801
    Thanks
    844
    Thanked 1,201 Times in 387 Posts

    Default Re: 2012 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiddo View Post
    Obama in 2008 drew crowds of 50k plus in Cleveland now he is drawing 3k?? Mitt is drawing huge crowds. Landslide baby
    Just remember, 'the landslide'll bring you down.'

  6. #4535
    member 32 bob2the2nd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    where MD, DE, and PA come together
    Posts
    10,373
    Thanks
    3,791
    Thanked 1,839 Times in 841 Posts

    Default Re: 2012 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiddo View Post
    Obama in 2008 drew crowds of 50k plus in Cleveland now he is drawing 3k?? Mitt is drawing huge crowds. Landslide baby
    yep, but the landslide is going to be for obama.

  7. The Following User Says Thank You to bob2the2nd For This Useful Post:


  8. #4536
    Catch the wave Yanni Football's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Gimpsuit
    Posts
    10,923
    Thanks
    4,123
    Thanked 8,757 Times in 3,474 Posts

    Default Re: 2012 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by cavsfan1985 View Post
    I hope your right. But I have my concerns.
    He's not.

    Again, not saying Romney can't win. I'm just saying when you look at the map and do the math, a landslide is next to impossible. Unless virtually every poll is wrong.
    Ass pennies

  9. #4537
    Team Player
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    941
    Thanks
    143
    Thanked 404 Times in 195 Posts

    Default Re: 2012 Presidential Election

    I just can't believe people are going to re elect Obama. Listen I understand party loyalty and how people follow democrats and republicans till the end. However there is so much more at stake. This country can no longer sustain huge amounts of federal spending that we are currently spending. In the end something is going to have to give whether its the socials programs that the government invests in or whether its the tax payers wallets, the rich, the middle class, the poor all will suffer in the end at the current rate.

    It's basic economics that this whole problem comes down too. If the federal government continues to spend money at the historic rate it's spending it could very well lead to super inflation in which will cause energy and food prices to soar beyond historical costs. Something will have to give we either have to cut funding for multiple social programs that are funded through the federal government or we will see an inevitable increase in taxes.

    When FDR came into power the social programs he inacted were only meant to be sustained temporarily to help Americans through the tough times. Unfortuently those programs are still in place today and are beginning to handicap America as we speak. America is a Capitalst country and I fear as we move forward into the future the more we are moving away from capitalism and the more we are moving towards socialism.

  10. The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to mofire For This Useful Post:


  11. #4538
    Gold Star Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    6,764
    Thanks
    208
    Thanked 392 Times in 228 Posts

    Default Re: 2012 Presidential Election

    I will be happy when Nov. 7th is here. I can't imagine living in Ohio or other battleground states. In IL we already have way too many automated phone ads, TV ads, etc. I feel like the "I hate Bronco Bama and Mitt Romney" girl and there have been almost no presidential ads. 0 for Romney and a few for Obama (why Obama is spending money in his home state I have no idea?)

    Should be interesting on Tuesday. I will be surprised if either candidate wins by a small margin. I know that sounds funny, but I think Obama either holds on to the states he won in '08 except for Indiana and North Carolina, or Romney will win pretty much all of the toss ups plus get a surprise like Pennsylvania or Michigan.

    Either the enthusiasm that Romney has gotten the past couple days is real and extends broadly beyond the people who attend the rallies, or it is an illusion and the GOP base really isn't all that fired up, except for the people at the rallies. At the same time Obama's base is either still going to come out and vote in big numbers and just aren't as openly enthused this time, or they are so un-enthused that they aren't going to come out and vote in very big numbers.
    The most valuable skill in basketball is not the ability to convert difficult shots, but create easy ones.

  12. #4539
    formerly LJ4MVP KI4MVP's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    12,020
    Thanks
    3,066
    Thanked 6,910 Times in 2,498 Posts

    Default Re: 2012 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by mofire View Post
    I just can't believe people are going to re elect Obama. Listen I understand party loyalty and how people follow democrats and republicans till the end. However there is so much more at stake. This country can no longer sustain huge amounts of federal spending that we are currently spending. In the end something is going to have to give whether its the socials programs that the government invests in or whether its the tax payers wallets, the rich, the middle class, the poor all will suffer in the end at the current rate.

    It's basic economics that this whole problem comes down too. If the federal government continues to spend money at the historic rate it's spending it could very well lead to super inflation in which will cause energy and food prices to soar beyond historical costs. Something will have to give we either have to cut funding for multiple social programs that are funded through the federal government or we will see an inevitable increase in taxes.

    When FDR came into power the social programs he inacted were only meant to be sustained temporarily to help Americans through the tough times. Unfortuently those programs are still in place today and are beginning to handicap America as we speak. America is a Capitalst country and I fear as we move forward into the future the more we are moving away from capitalism and the more we are moving towards socialism.
    As a percentage of GDP, we're spending less today than we did under Reagan. We're also spending less than we did under the last year of Bush. Clinton brought spending down, Bush escalated it back up, obama has brought it down from where Bush left it. Romney is the one who has promised to escalate spending with his plans with the defense budget.

    Last edited by KI4MVP; 11-04-2012 at 01:46 AM.

  13. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to KI4MVP For This Useful Post:


  14. #4540
    Gold Star Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    6,764
    Thanks
    208
    Thanked 392 Times in 228 Posts

    Default Re: 2012 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by KI4MVP View Post
    As a percentage of GDP, we're spending less today than we did under Reagan. We're also spending less than we did under the last year of Bush.

    Whoop-dee-doo. Doesn't mean the level of spending is acceptable because of what has happened in the past.

    I also fail to see how 22.3 > 23.8
    The most valuable skill in basketball is not the ability to convert difficult shots, but create easy ones.

  15. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Northstar For This Useful Post:


  16. #4541
    formerly LJ4MVP KI4MVP's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    12,020
    Thanks
    3,066
    Thanked 6,910 Times in 2,498 Posts

    Default Re: 2012 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by Northstar View Post
    Whoop-dee-doo. Doesn't mean the level of spending is acceptable because of what has happened in the past.

    I also fail to see how 22.3 > 23.8
    I wasn't referring to averages, I'm referring to 2012, which is below Reagan's peak years and right around his average. How is Romney going to lower overall spending while adding $2 trillion to the defense budget? That's a massive job just to offset the $2 trillion increase. Can anyone who plans to voter for Romney on the grounds he's going to lower government spending please explain the math?
    Last edited by KI4MVP; 11-04-2012 at 01:53 AM.

  17. The Following User Says Thank You to KI4MVP For This Useful Post:


  18. #4542
    Rising Star
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    1,760
    Thanks
    334
    Thanked 1,444 Times in 539 Posts

    Default Re: 2012 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by KI4MVP View Post
    I wasn't referring to averages, I'm referring to 2012, which is below Reagan's peak years and right around his average. How is Romney going to lower overall spending while adding $2 trillion to the defense budget? That's a massive job just to offset the $2 trillion increase. Can anyone who plans to voter for Romney on the grounds he's going to lower government spending please explain the math?
    Increase the taxpayer base by putting people back to work. The current $60,000 per family on average, who takes federal entitlement money, is ridiculous.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...ty_657889.html

  19. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to billmac91 For This Useful Post:


  20. #4543
    formerly LJ4MVP KI4MVP's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    12,020
    Thanks
    3,066
    Thanked 6,910 Times in 2,498 Posts

    Default Re: 2012 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by billmac91 View Post
    Increase the taxpayer base by putting people back to work. The current $60,000 per family on average, who takes federal entitlement money, is ridiculous.
    that's not the real average, that's the "lets skew the numbers as much as possible to make things look bad" average

  21. #4544
    Rising Star bcort's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    1,692
    Thanks
    231
    Thanked 843 Times in 358 Posts

    Default Re: 2012 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by KI4MVP View Post
    I wasn't referring to averages, I'm referring to 2012, which is below Reagan's peak years and right around his average. How is Romney going to lower overall spending while adding $2 trillion to the defense budget? That's a massive job just to offset the $2 trillion increase. Can anyone who plans to voter for Romney on the grounds he's going to lower government spending please explain the math?
    Oh come on... I really think you're just trying to troll us in this thread.

    When is that chart from? 2010!

    I'm sure you knew that. But that doesn't mean it's accurate at all. Here's an updated chart that has 2011 and estimates from 2012 (surely more accurate than your chart, now that we know what we do about 2012).



    He hasn't been under 24%. Spending over that amount has happened one other year-2009. He's looking to do it three years in a row. You think he's dropping spending? Are you nuts?

    Here, you can look at the numbers from the OMB: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...s/hist15z3.xls

  22. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to bcort For This Useful Post:


  23. #4545
    Rising Star
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    1,760
    Thanks
    334
    Thanked 1,444 Times in 539 Posts

    Default Re: 2012 Presidential Election

    Quote Originally Posted by KI4MVP View Post
    that's not the real average, that's the "lets skew the numbers as much as possible to make things look bad" average
    17,000,000 families are under poverty line and takes federal assistance. The amount the federal gov't and state gov't spends is right in the chart. It's actually really simple math. You take the amount we spend, and divide by the amount of families receiving aid. It's pretty crazy how math works...


  24. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to billmac91 For This Useful Post:


Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •