Kyrie Irving

[Tornicade]

Jyrie has one bad game and its end of the world. he was probably still pissed about Stern making him where the stupid clear mask after letting a backup scrub wear the black mask for years. maybe his dog idied. who cares its an 82 games season. or maybe Scott had him working on something he was struggling with. etc. ultimately who cares. now if it goes on for 5 or 10 games then maybe theres a problem.

[Lottery God]

Jyrie has one bad game and its end of the world. he was probably still pissed about Stern making him where the stupid clear mask after letting a backup scrub wear the black mask for years. maybe his dog idied. who cares its an 82 games season. or maybe Scott had him working on something he was struggling with. etc. ultimately who cares. now if it goes on for 5 or 10 games then maybe theres a problem.

Man, just some nights, Kyrie will light up the arena and look like a superstar. Other nights, he'll look like LeBron did during the playoffs from the years 2010-2011. Disinterested. Deferring. Not trying his hardest. I want to see my guy with a Kobe-like mentality, where he's going to play his ass off every night (minus the 41 shot attempts unless he's 50+ FG% ).

[3 Da Hard Way]

[3 Da Hard Way]

PG debate: NBA's top youngsters
Roundtable: Which young point guard is the best of the last five draft classes?

3. Who's the third-best PG of the past five draft classes?

Herbert: Kyrie Irving: He's basically the new Chris Paul, and he might be higher on this list in a couple of years. Irving has essentially no weaknesses offensively and looked the part of a franchise player less than halfway through his rookie season. His defense isn't there yet, but he's 20 years old.

Sunnergren: Kyrie Irving. Per Pro Basketball Prospectus, three point guards in the Association's long history have posted a season of 8-plus WAPR before they hit age 21: Magic Johnson, Chris Paul and -- yup -- Irving. As far as the injuries and the assist-to-turnover ratio that's crept disconcertingly close to 1-to-1? We'll forgive him.

5. Who's the best PG of the past five draft classes?

Arnovitz: Irving. It's still early, but after 66 NBA games, Irving has already mastered the specifics of pick-and-roll basketball, the nuances of directing an offense and the ability to shred his man in isolation. He acknowledges that his defense needs more bite, but let's project ahead a season and a half or so, to a time when Irving has logged 200 games. What's he going to look like then?

Foster: Irving: Plain and simple, Irving has the most skill of the group. He's the best ball handler, the best perimeter shooter (non-Curry division) and the best shot-creator. These types of efficiency numbers typically don't happen with such a high usage rate and such bad teammates, but they are. Once he starts defending, Irving will have a spot in the league's best point guard conversation, period. He's that good.

Koremenos: Irving. This kid can just flat-out play. He's a taller, better-shooting version of Paul who is already capable of being the first option on a contender. The only thing holding him back from superstardom is if his odd assortment of injuries continue to force him to miss time.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/...g-point-guards

Was this posted ? Maybe I missed It through all the Steve Francis rage

[Lottery God]

Kyrie's got elite-level faking ability. He faked a pass to Zeller, but then he acted like he was going to go in for a layup. The defender had thought he had bypassed the fake, thinking for sure that Irving was going in for a layup, so he went ahead and left his feet. Irving then passed to Zeller, who flushed it. Irving essentially did a fake pass followed by a fake layup, leading to an assist--a double fake! And I'm sure that, if the defender had jumped the fake pass, Irving would have just laid it in. Sick stuff there.

[MGMT]

So, he pretends to fake? He faked the fake?


Mindfucked.

[Kizzle]

Kyrie's got elite-level faking ability. He faked a pass to Zeller, but then he acted like he was going to go in for a layup. The defender had thought he had bypassed the fake, thinking for sure that Irving was going in for a layup, so he went ahead and left his feet. Irving then passed to Zeller, who flushed it. Irving essentially did a fake pass followed by a fake layup, leading to an assist--a double fake! And I'm sure that, if the defender had jumped the fake pass, Irving would have just laid it in. Sick stuff there.

On top of that he did it really fast and smooth. When you do those moves fast defenders have to overplay one of the options. Like slower, rigid pump fake from 3 and your guy has time to mentally decide to play off and not step up or to get in your face.....Do a fast, precise pump fake from 3 and your guy doesnt have time to think he just has to react(Most guys will step up/jump)boom he jumps and you have a layup or a wide open mid range J. You look at TT under the rim...its trash and slow and you know exactly when hes gonna try to power it up. It happens so fast but actually sit there and look at NBA PGs in transition and when they iso. Its so amazing the TINY things they do that get them that extra inch of space

[theSTEREO.]

You know what bums me out the most about this? The first thing I thought was "If that was Tristan, he would have two-hand bounced, gathered, and gotten blocked by Udoh."

[PosterTime]

You know what bums me out the most about this? The first thing I thought was "If that was Tristan, he would have two-hand bounced, gathered, and gotten blocked by Udoh."

That may be so, but Tristan has been playing better as a whole lately. He has a long way to go but he's eventually going to learn the tricks to finishing around the rim. Will he ever have a jumpshot, maybe not, but I do think he'll learn how to be an adequate finisher. He has the physical tools. I didn't get to watch this Milwaukee game though...

[tn819]

Beautiful play and Kyrie on offense is butter, but let's not forget the defender (term applied loosely) on the play is Monta Ellis, and the opponents are the Bucks, one of the franchises in absolute free-fall in the NBA, and destined for a Bobcats level season in the near future once they figure out whether they are rebuilding (They are!).

[theshad]

I met Kyrie today, my friend played him in one of those arcade basketball games, and he took some pictures with us. He was pissed he didn't get the high score his first try in the game.

I didn't talk to him much since I didn't want to bother him while he was out with his family, but it was still awesome.

[rabman_gold]

I met Kyrie today, my friend played him in one of those arcade basketball games, and he took some pictures with us. He was pissed he didn't get the high score his first try in the game.

I didn't talk to him much since I didn't want to bother him while he was out with his family, but it was still awesome.

Seems down-to-Earth unlike some other guy we know, hm?

I pray he becomes more like a Durant type than anything else (someone that wants to win AND doesn't mind the market size).

[Chris]

I haven't met him, but the truth is I don't get the vibe from him that he is any different from the rest of these pro athletes. He will stick with Cleveland for 7 years probably and if we are still fumbling with our dicks at that point he will leave, as he should. He really does not seem any more "down to earth," pro-Cleveland, or humble than one should expect from a 20 year old pro athlete.

Just my thoughts from afar.

[Lottery God]

I haven't met him, but the truth is I don't get the vibe from him that he is any different from the rest of these pro athletes. He will stick with Cleveland for 7 years probably and if we are still fumbling with our dicks at that point he will leave, as he should. He really does not seem any more "down to earth," pro-Cleveland, or humble than one should expect from a 20 year old pro athlete.

Just my thoughts from afar.

This is no attack on you, but merely an observation. From the post you just made, I am feeling like it was driven by the emotional wounds of a fan who was hurt more so than an informed, unbiased opinion from a fair-minded critic. I think you should withhold judgment on that aspect of Kyrie until you've at least met and talked with the dude or spoken with others who have met him and know him personally. Going by what you see in interviews is definitely not the best indicator.

[sgm405]

I haven't met him, but the truth is I don't get the vibe from him that he is any different from the rest of these pro athletes. He will stick with Cleveland for 7 years probably and if we are still fumbling with our dicks at that point he will leave, as he should. He really does not seem any more "down to earth," pro-Cleveland, or humble than one should expect from a 20 year old pro athlete.

Just my thoughts from afar.

I used to think more along these lines...then I met the kid. He is absolutely different, trust me.