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    Varejao is a class act, and might be one of the few talented basketball players out there without an ego the size of a balloon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoes22 View Post
    Varejao is a class act, and might be one of the few talented basketball players out there without an ego the size of a balloon.


    What a fucking egomaniac.
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    Why We Watch: Anderson Varejao, Mr. Cleveland
    February 26, 2013 - 11:07am | By Colin McGowan

    His career is like a John Donne poem minus the anguish. Anderson Varejao has been a Cavalier for almost nine years and doesn’t seem to realize it. All his motion is circular—run and jump and screen and slide and never really get where you want to go. Six years with LeBron, one aboard the meteor from Armageddon, one-and-a-half with Kyrie. All remarkable, but only sort of. I wrote him a farewell letter in January of 2012. He’s still in Cleveland. He seems to like it there. What a strange guy.

    There are players so talented that their games appear effortless, and there are players so athletically overmatched that they look like a 1920s industrial worker in fast-forward. Varejao trends toward the latter, but there’s more to him than late-round draft pick scrappitude and floor burns. He’s perpetual motion with a conscience.

    Team-specific blogs and a relatively newfound fascination with front office personalities have conspired to turn a lot of fans into amateur team-builders. Fans of teams on the fringes of relevance craft elaborate five-year plans for their organization and debate whether Oklahoma City’s rise to prominence constitutes a viable contender-building model or simply reflects exceedingly good luck. It makes sense that the sports-destitute do this. If you’re laid up on the couch for two months with a broken leg, you probably spend a lot of time daydreaming about all the stuff you’re going to do once mobile again
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    We, the amateur team-builders, are quick to remark, when a GM makes a short-sighted move in an attempt to push his team out of the lottery and into the outskirts of the playoff picture, that the guiding principle of team-building should be that the goal is to construct a championship contender, not a seventh seed. That’s fine and well in a vacuum, but only one team wins the title each year while, in today’s talent-flush NBA, there are about a dozen really fun squads to watch, and not all of them are even necessarily playoff teams.

    All this title-or-bust rhetoric shifts our focus toward an endpoint. We are directed toward the result of sport, not the process—the part we’re watching 99 percent of the time. Surely, a championship is the apex of sports fandom, but this is not a zero sum affair, and basketball played happily and well can offer a series of gleeful moments of relief and release even in losing efforts. We too frequently confuse the object of sports fandom with the in-the-moment purpose of sports fandom, which is to care deeply about something that doesn’t actually matter and take what that experience gives.

    Anderson Varejao is a player who makes us appreciate a process we know won’t end well. He’s currently sitting on the Cleveland Cavaliers’ bench looking like a stalk of broccoli that has been fitted for a suit, but he was exhilarating to watch when healthy. Not exhilarating in the violent, graceful sense of the pre-sad trombone Amare Stoudemire, but exhilarating in an oddly practical sense: like watching someone parallel park the shit out of a large van. Varejao and person-for-whom-there-is-not-enough-love-in-the-universe-to-properly-appreciate Kyrie Irving formed the best pick and roll combination in the league earlier this season because of their buddy-cop psychic connection and Varejao’s ability to finish at the rim with his body cocked at all manner of Nowitzkian angles.

    On a Cavs team with few offensive options, Varejao ran as if on a conveyer belt between the block and the top of the key, his hair bobbing up and down as he ambled to and away from Irving. He flashed and popped and rolled and made the team watchable. Without him, they spend a lot of time standing around waiting for Irving to do amazing things as Irving grows increasingly frustrated with Tyler Zeller, who remains incapable of setting a decent screen despite being a very large person.

    Before Varejao’s legitimately scary blood clot, Tristan Thompson joked that he was glad to see the Brazilian on the bench for a couple weeks because it meant he could finally grab some rebounds. (He wasn’t wrong, by the way: Thompson’s rebounding numbers jumped up from 7.7 RPG with Varejao to 10.5 RPG without him.) Varejao seems to get his hands or fingertips on nearly everything that clangs off the rim, whether he’s sticking his butt into somebody and securing a miss all fundamental-like or pirouetting between two players to tip the ball to a teammate. He often appears to be trying and failing to gain his sea legs as he corrals a board; he leads the league in one-footed outlet passes. He routinely, goofily grabs 15 rebounds in a game.

    The way he moves like he’s made out of Slinkies, his falling-over lay-ins, and his ability to guard almost any forward or center in the league despite not being particularly big or particularly able to jump over small dogs feeds into the perception of Varejao as an “energy guy.” He’s overmatched and does what he can with what he has. Bless his heart, etc. But this misclassification undersells him.

    He’s not Reggie Evans. This is a guy who was averaging 14-and-14 before he got hurt. All that manic energy isn’t manic; it’s orchestrated chaos. Varejao is kooky—wonderfully kooky—but also an adept passer, an aware defender, and crafty around the basket. For whatever reason, both he and similarly wacky-haired Joakim Noah get thrown in the “scrappy big man” category when they’re actually both just really, really good at basketball in difficult to define ways.


    Regrettably, Anderson Varejao will not resume being really, really good at basketball until next season. He’s out for the year and has ended each of the last three seasons on the injured list. The logic thrown around in NBA nerd circles is that he plays too hard not to get hurt—a player so kinetic is bound to fall the wrong way or run into something hard at one point or another. This may be accurate or Varejao may just have shit luck, but perhaps the shittest of shit luck is that his injuries have prevented the Cavs from trading him to a contender, where his Varejao Things could help a team win a title.

    The amateur team-builders and I have been pushing Varejao out the door each of the last three seasons. It’s nothing against him; he’s just had the misfortune of being in his late 20s (and now early 30s) on a team full of recent draft picks. Plus he helps the team win games, and the Cavs haven’t wanted any part of winning games since LeBron left. He has lived a double life in the minds of many fans as a favorite son and an asset. It’s a strange relationship: Cavaliers fans love Anderson Varejao, then spend their lunch breaks plugging him into speculative trades.

    In this way, Varejao’s injury comes as a relief. Now that he has been tagged as injury prone, his trade value has probably been diminished to the point that Cleveland will simply hang onto him. Not unlike famous Cavalier Zydrunas Ilgauskus, Varejao is an immigrant who has found a home in the rust belt’s paunch, and he deserves, like Big Z, to be a beloved fixture in the community for the next handful of decades, perhaps joining the Cavs’ coaching staff or front office after he retires.


    If Varejao stays and finishes his career in Cleveland, he might not sniff a title, and he certainly won’t come close to one while he’s still playing at a borderline all-star level. When I say Varejao doesn’t seem to notice he’s a Cavalier, I mean he plays and conducts himself like Cleveland is a fine place to be, even as he gives his prime to a lottery-dweller. Of course, we fans are also giving, if not exactly our primes, our time and psychic effort and hope to a team that’s just now, two and a half years after LeBron’s departure, figuring out how to not embarrass itself on a weekly basis. We keep coming back because we can’t transfer our allegiance to the Clippers or the Thunder, though that would probably be more gratifying. Varejao is stuck with the Cavs, and so are we.

    And when he runs pick-and-rolls with Kyrie Irving, it becomes easier to think that being a Cavaliers fan might be fine too. Maybe not in a long-run, rooting-for-a-promising-young-team way, but definitely in the sense that in small moments, you can enjoy a terrible team for what it is right now. Which is, at least, ours.


    Colin McGowan is a writer and comedian living in Chicago. You can follow him @cs_mcgowan, where he links to his writing and swears a lot.

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    Have you guys noticed that Andy has been sitting next to the coaching staff on the bench a lot lately? He's also been very active in huddle and giving his thoughts to the coaching staff during timeouts. Great stuff......

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    Yeah I've noticed that also. He seems really involved with all that stuff, and I often see him chatting with the coaches when they cut to the bench during games. He also has a great relationship with Chris Grant and the front office, and I think that's partly why Grant was asking for a king's ransom in trading Andy. I don't think Grant wants to trade Andy because he provides so many intangibles that frankly could not be replicated in a trade. It would be cool if Varejao returns to the team in a coaching capacity of some sort (like Ilgauskas) once he hangs it up and retires.

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    Fate and my vodoo doll has kept AV with the Cavs.

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    I post this only for observation reasons, not to knock Varejao. Just showing how much this team has grown.

    The Cavs are 16-21 without Andy. 5-21 when he was starting. Cavs are basically a few very late blown leads away from being a .500 team without their best big playing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    I post this only for observation reasons, not to knock Varejao. Just showing how much this team has grown.

    The Cavs are 16-21 without Andy. 5-21 when he was starting. Cavs are basically a few very late blown leads away from being a .500 team without their best big playing.
    It's the Livingston signing and the trade that has made the difference. With a healthy AV and Irving our starting lineup had I believe one of the best +/-'s in the league but we got obliterated with the wreck of a bench we had.
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    Yeah, there's no question that things weren't exactly going right early on. Tristan wasn't on the same page offensively as he is now and we had guys like Pargo, Gibson, Casspi coming off the bench for 20+ minutes. Would Thompson be the same person if he and Andy played together? Would our rotations flounder? Would Coach leave them on an island or would Grant give Coach guys that force his hand?

    If Andy was with Zeller, Thompson, Gee, Waiters, Irving, Speights, Walton, Ellington, Livingston for the whole game, I could put money on a solid rotation:

    We base it on Coach's current rotation a little...

    Quarter Minutes C_ PF SF SG PG
    1 12:00 Zeller Thompson Gee Waiters Irving
    1 09:00 Thompson Speights Gee Waiters Irving
    1 06:00 Thompson Speights Gee Ellington Irving
    1 03:00 Varejao Speights Ellington Livingston Irving
    2 12:00 Varejao Speights Miles Ellington Livingston
    2 09:00 Varejao Zeller Miles Ellington Livingston
    2 06:00 Zeller Thompson Gee Waiters Irving
    2 03:00 Zeller Thompson Gee Waiters Irving
    3 12:00 Zeller Thompson Gee Waiters Irving
    3 09:00 Speights Thompson Gee Waiters Irving
    3 06:00 Speights Walton Gee Ellington Irving
    3 03:00 Varejao Walton Ellington Livingston Irving
    4 12:00 Varejao Walton Miles Ellington Livingston
    4 07:00 Varejao Thompson Gee Ellington Irving

    Just an example of just how different it could be with just Varejao.
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    If we had varejao and were competing for the play offs I think Scott would have lost patience with speights and zeller and would be riding Thompson and varejao hard while going small with Walton to spread the floor like he has been. It may not be good for Thompson but the team would of been better off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oasis05 View Post
    If we had varejao and were competing for the play offs I think Scott would have lost patience with speights and zeller and would be riding Thompson and varejao hard while going small with Walton to spread the floor like he has been. It may not be good for Thompson but the team would of been better off.
    You did look at the table, right?

    Quarter Minutes C_ PF SF SG PG
    1 12:00 Zeller Thompson Gee Waiters Irving
    1 09:00 Thompson Speights Gee Waiters Irving
    1 06:00 Thompson Speights Gee Ellington Irving
    1 03:00 Varejao
    Speights Ellington Livingston Irving
    2 12:00 Varejao Speights Miles Ellington Livingston
    2 09:00 Varejao Zeller Miles Ellington Livingston
    2 06:00 Zeller Thompson Gee Waiters Irving
    2 03:00 Zeller Thompson Gee Waiters Irving
    3 12:00 Zeller Thompson Gee Waiters Irving
    3 09:00 Speights Thompson Gee Waiters Irving
    3 06:00 Speights Walton Gee Ellington Irving
    3 03:00 Varejao
    Walton Ellington Livingston Irving
    4 12:00 Varejao Walton Miles Ellington Livingston
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    I post this only for observation reasons, not to knock Varejao. Just showing how much this team has grown.

    The Cavs are 16-21 without Andy. 5-21 when he was starting. Cavs are basically a few very late blown leads away from being a .500 team without their best big playing.
    This has me thinking how good can we be next season with everyone healthy and the new and improved bench?

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