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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrich91 View Post
    With all due respect, I wouldn't count on it W&G...

    I think it would require trading up to #2 and if that costs us the #24, that's a little too steep a price to pay. I can't help but feel that you're speaking with your heart and not necessarily your head.

    I sure hope we can swing a deal like #4 +#33 for #2, but it's just not realistic.
    I'm not a big MKG fan at this point but if he's the player that really makes a difference than I absolutely trade 24 with 4 to get him at 2. It's a small price to pay to get the guy you really want. The 24th pick in the draft is a marginal player typically, some outliers but a guy who is good enough to hang on in the league a few years. I throw that type of guy into almost any deal to land a cornerstone player. Again, I'm not sure MKG is that cornerstone guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phills1 View Post
    I'm not a big MKG fan at this point but if he's the player that really makes a difference than I absolutely trade 24 with 4 to get him at 2. It's a small price to pay to get the guy you really want. The 24th pick in the draft is a marginal player typically, some outliers but a guy who is good enough to hang on in the league a few years. I throw that type of guy into almost any deal to land a cornerstone player. Again, I'm not sure MKG is that cornerstone guy.
    If W&G thinks it's worth it, I'm sold.

    Prior to his post, I would've said lets take our chances with whomever Grant takes at #4. But if he thinks we should move up to take MKG, that's good enough for me.

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    Default Re: Draymond Green - Draft sleeper

    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoCavFan View Post
    I've been pimping DG for some time. Would hear the undersized knocks, the fact that he has been in school so long, and he sucked as a freshman...but I've seen a guy that has improved every year, adding new wrinkles to his game (I chronicled those improvements in a post some time ago). Would LOVE him in the 2nd, like him with our late first (depending on who is on the board).
    Green making a big impact in GS...playing more than Barnes at this point. He hit the game winner in Miami, and earned LeBron's respect by playing him tough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wine and Gold View Post
    If we go guard with our early pick in round 1, then I would think Green would be one of our type targets late in 1st or early 2nd for sure. He's a Cavalier type early 2nd round selection quite frankly. I can see him with us .. But, I'll be right upfront ...I fully expect MKG to be a Cavalier early on. One way or the other we are gonna find a way to land him in this draft. For many reasons that I really don't want to get into in detail, I think it benefits the Cavs longterm to do what it takes to get MKG under the Cavalier tent, and I expect it to get done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SRStark20 View Post
    It's no secret we did try to get MKG, so I don't know what's so funny.
    OU... OH YEAH!!!!

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    good basketball players are good basketball players. Every year kids like Green and Dajuan Blair get overlooked because of physical limitations. It really should be no surprise to anyone that this kid is successful in the league.

    I have to admit though, I was a bit surprised when I saw Golden State let Draymond guard LeBron on the perimeter. And Draymond held his own. His lateral quickness is really solid for a guy with his build. His offensive game is so solid though. The type of guy you trust in all situations to make the correct basketball play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Optomist View Post
    It's no secret we did try to get MKG, so I don't know what's so funny.
    I was just joking around.

    People had us getting MKG or Beal somehow, and we end up with Waiters. Then we trade the other three picks we had away, where many had us getting Green, and we got Zeller.

    Draft Night was just kind of... surprising. At least to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billmac91 View Post
    good basketball players are good basketball players. Every year kids like Green and Dajuan Blair get overlooked because of physical limitations. It really should be no surprise to anyone that this kid is successful in the league.

    I have to admit though, I was a bit surprised when I saw Golden State let Draymond guard LeBron on the perimeter. And Draymond held his own. His lateral quickness is really solid for a guy with his build. His offensive game is so solid though. The type of guy you trust in all situations to make the correct basketball play.
    You do realize Green has played terribly so far, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Wreck View Post
    You do realize Green has played terribly so far, right?
    Which would be why he is finishing games rather than Harrison Barnes, right?

    Not sure if it shows up in the stat line, but he makes the Warriors better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CleveRocks View Post
    Which would be why he is finishing games rather than Harrison Barnes, right?

    Not sure if it shows up in the stat line, but he makes the Warriors better.
    Maybe they like him out there for his defense since they already have Curry, Thompson, Lee and usually Jack to score?

    He's shooting 27% from the floor. If he hadn't made a game winning shot, nobody would be talking about how they wish we had drafted him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Optomist View Post
    It's no secret we did try to get MKG, so I don't know what's so funny.
    Reading w&g's makes me want to cry, personally.

    Kyrie, MKG, and then Ben McLemore next year....

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    Default Re: Draymond Green - Draft sleeper

    Quote Originally Posted by SRStark20 View Post
    I was just joking around.

    People had us getting MKG or Beal somehow, and we end up with Waiters. Then we trade the other three picks we had away, where many had us getting Green, and we got Zeller.

    Draft Night was just kind of... surprising. At least to me.
    Well, we did try to get MKG. To be honest, though, I don't think Beal was ahead of Waiters on our big board. I think we tried to trade up with Charlotte specifically to draft MKG, who was second on our board (after Davis). I still think Waiters was third. He outranked Beal in the advanced metrics, and Grant very much appears to be a metrics guy.

    I wasn't surprised at all that the team picked Waiters, though. When MKG went second instead of Robinson (who was rumored to be a possibility), I expected it. The trade up to grab Zeller was much more of a surprise for me. I mean, I get why they did it. He's a perfect fit in our offense and fell further than anyone projected despite being a skilled seven-footer. I just wasn't expecting it.

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    Default Re: Draymond Green - Draft sleeper

    Quote Originally Posted by D-Wreck View Post
    Maybe they like him out there for his defense since they already have Curry, Thompson, Lee and usually Jack to score?

    He's shooting 27% from the floor. If he hadn't made a game winning shot, nobody would be talking about how they wish we had drafted him.
    He's not going to be an all-star, but if you actually watch some of Golden State's games, you'd realize he's having a very nice rookie campaign (especially consider where he was drafted). This has been evident this season, and well before any game-winning shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Wreck View Post
    Maybe they like him out there for his defense since they already have Curry, Thompson, Lee and usually Jack to score?

    He's shooting 27% from the floor. If he hadn't made a game winning shot, nobody would be talking about how they wish we had drafted him.
    There were those of us who were talking about it before the game winning shot. That shot was just a matter of time. I watched Green play in the Big Ten, and while he seemed glen davis baby fat, he had an understanding of the game and a sense of where everybody was on the floor that many point guards never seem to get. He basically carried his team as deep as they went in March. Predraft his stock was beaten down because he was obviously over weight. Scouts feared he would be too short to play power forward, but too heavy to play small forward. GS took a flier, he has worked himself into a shape that is not round and he still has that basketball sense about him. I am not saying he is Micheal Jordan, but I think he will be around the league a while. This is not criticism of the Cavs draft choices. I think they will be very happy with Dion and Tyler.
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