2013 NBA Draft

[jwalker1399]

As much as I loved him in November, not a good fit with Waiters and irving! porter is the better passer, defender, rebounder and spot up shooter. I would actually take Porter over SM hands down! We need a lengthy 6'8 SF who has all the skills Porter has in the worst way. Even if Lbj comes back in 14, Porter can guard the SG position on D!

There is NOT a better fit for this Cavs team in the draft than Otto Porter, imo. He's just going to make everyone around him better and chip-in himself. I know everyone likes to talk about LBJ coming back but the fact that DG has yet to acknowledge him by name in public, isn't a great sign. And if he does come back, by some miracle, I bet he's playing the 4 full-time.

[MirORich]

Basically we either get Shabbazz or Porter in this draft or we have to get LeBron, Paul George(RFA S&T in 2014), or Batum(trade for if we fail to get LeBron or George)

After this draft are picks wont be high enough to get an upper level to elite SF. Of those 5, my order of preference is LBJ, Porter, George, Batum, Shabbazz.

George and Batum also would take asserts beyond capspace to acquire and the willingness of Indiana or Portland to even entertain a trade.

[wuck]

Cavs are now in the 7th spot (barely), and there are four bad teams just a few games ahead. I don't know if the Cavs will keep it up, but it may be better to think about a Top-10 board instead of a Top-5 board.

(don't blame the messenger)

[MirORich]

Who is the third best SF in the draft behind Porter and Shabbazz?

Reviewing the names that have been talked about as legit NBA players, it would still seem that even 7-10 range we would end up with a name that has been discussed here in serious terms
Len, Zeller, Oladipo, Bennett, McLemore, Porter, Shabbazz, Noel make up the 8 names we've talked about the most here, right? Of those names, which are the least desirable to everyone and which are the most realistic for the 7-8 hole.

Also, can we just put in a "Nick Gilbert", "What's not to like?", and "Amen" into the public record for good luck

[ajz20]

Cavs are now in the 7th spot (barely), and there are four bad teams just a few games ahead. I don't know if the Cavs will keep it up, but it may be better to think about a Top-10 board instead of a Top-5 board.

(don't blame the messenger)

The good news is according to Fords nba scouts and Gms board Porter and Len are in the 5-9 range, but that could change over the next 5 weeks.'

Having to settle for Cody Zeller would be a downer, when guys like Porter and Len could have been scooped up.

Muhmammad has dropped from 2-8 according to the Gm's and scouts. Could he fall to the 9-11 range? It is not out of the question.


Bottom line, with our top 8 pick, I want a guy that can play from day 1 not a project, who will take several years to develop in the gym and the court. This is why I am strongly anti Austin and CS as consideration for our first pick.

Lets just pray Porter and Len are options!

[Huber.]

Who is the third best SF in the draft behind Porter and Shabbazz?

Reviewing the names that have been talked about as legit NBA players, it would still seem that even 7-10 range we would end up with a name that has been discussed here in serious terms
Len, Zeller, Oladipo, Bennett, McLemore, Porter, Shabbazz, Noel make up the 8 names we've talked about the most here, right? Of those names, which are the least desirable to everyone and which are the most realistic for the 7-8 hole.

Also, can we just put in a "Nick Gilbert", "What's not to like?", and "Amen" into the public record for good luck

Shabbazz is a SG.



So where do you guys think Tyler and Dion would go in this draft?

[wuck]

So where do you guys think Tyler and Dion would go in this draft?

If the Cavs were picking 4th, Dion would definitely get picked there just for the uproar.

But I guess you're asking in terms of relative strength of this year's draft class vs. last year's class. From the posts in this thread, it seems as if there is no Anthony-Davis-type player, but that players in the top 8 or 10 are pretty strong. So, knowing what we knew then (and not what we know now), maybe Waiters would get pushed down a handful of spots. Zeller might also get pushed down a few spots, certainly below his brother (despite the underwhelming season to date), but he got drafted later than expected last year.

[jwalker1399]

Who is the third best SF in the draft behind Porter and Shabbazz?

Reviewing the names that have been talked about as legit NBA players, it would still seem that even 7-10 range we would end up with a name that has been discussed here in serious terms
Len, Zeller, Oladipo, Bennett, McLemore, Porter, Shabbazz, Noel make up the 8 names we've talked about the most here, right? Of those names, which are the least desirable to everyone and which are the most realistic for the 7-8 hole.

Also, can we just put in a "Nick Gilbert", "What's not to like?", and "Amen" into the public record for good luck

I think the Cavs have the ammo to move around a bit in the draft.... if they want/need to.

But to answer your original question, probably Sergey Karasev, who the Cavs reportedly have some level of interest in.

[chrisrich91]

I like how the ESPN Lottery Mock Draft machine scrambles through the teams and "Seattle SuperSonics" flies by instead of "Sacramento Kings"

[Shack]

Who is the third best SF in the draft behind Porter and Shabbazz?

Reviewing the names that have been talked about as legit NBA players, it would still seem that even 7-10 range we would end up with a name that has been discussed here in serious terms
Len, Zeller, Oladipo, Bennett, McLemore, Porter, Shabbazz, Noel make up the 8 names we've talked about the most here, right? Of those names, which are the least desirable to everyone and which are the most realistic for the 7-8 hole.

Also, can we just put in a "Nick Gilbert", "What's not to like?", and "Amen" into the public record for good luck

Poythress is other high ish ranked SF

Just to point out, there is 0 chance the Cavs take Shabazz top 10, forget the possibility entirely. There is no player less advanced metrics friendly than Shabazz this year because of how bad his blk/stl, ast is, plus mediocre efficiency. I'd be surprised if the Cavs had him ranked in their top 30 and he might not be in their top 60. If you see Shabazz mocked to CLE in June, treat it like the Barnes rumours. A big smokescreen/troll

[Tornicade]

noone like Glenn robinson ?

then theres Deshaun Thomas whose mid range game would just make Kyrie and Dion wet the bed thinking off all the assist they can rack up on aborted drives. This years small forward class is definitely deeper than last years.

[ajz20]

noone like Glenn robinson ?

then theres Deshaun Thomas whose mid range game would just make Kyrie and Dion wet the bed thinking off all the assist they can rack up on aborted drives. This years small forward class is definitely deeper than last years.

Deshaun Thomas is not a top NBA prospect. Go back and read last year's draft thread to understand why (it has been rehashed by us OSU fans several times in great detail) He will be a second rounder who will probably end up spending most of his career over seas. Glenn Robinson has looked very "green" vs top ranked teams and competition. He will not be under consideration for a top 8 pick, but could def be an option with the Lakers pick if we land LEN. Robinson has struggled so much, that many in Michigan feel he is leaning towards coming back another year, because there is not a decent chance he is out of the lottery. Not to pick on you, but I recommend you guys ignore nbadraft.net (it is the most unreliable service for the draft) You need to follow Fords board on espn.


It is not his opinion, but info he is getting from scouts an actual GM's

[*L-Train*]

Shabbazz is a SG.



So where do you guys think Tyler and Dion would go in this draft?

that's one of the main concerns with him...Ford mentioned it in his chat yesterday:

Mike (Cleveland)
I have read where you say Muhammad's natural position is at SF. But I have read where lots of people (fans and scouts) who believe he can play SG in the NBA. Why do you believe he is better suited to be an undersized 3 rather than an oversized 2?

Chad Ford
(1:13 PM)I'm not sure he has the quickness, on either end, to be a two. He's strong and physical. He bullies his way around. I think he might get abused by the quicker, smaller twos in the NBA. The issue for scouts is that at 6-5, he's undersized as a three. That's why some are trying to project him as a two guard. But I just don't think he has that game offensively, and more importantly, I'm not sure he can guard twos on the defensive end. That's why he's been sliding a bit in our rankings. Teams love the motor and he's obviously a gifted scorer, but there are concerns.

here are some other intersting answers:

Will (DC)
I believe the most slept on and overated player in this years draft will be Otto Porter. Is there a realistic chance the Georgetown star could be a top 3 pick?

Chad Ford
(1:11 PM)
I agree with the first part -- he's been so great all year and only recently is he getting the credit he deserves. To me he's got an upside of Danny Granger or higher. High basketball IQ. Unselfish. Does a little of everything. Cares more about winning than stats. And this year he's really taken the Hoyas on his back. His game against Syracuse last week was one of the most impressive performances in college basketball. I really think he has the chance to special. So I wouldn't hesitate to take him in the Top 3. He's No. 6 on our Big Board, but if it was just my own personal board, he'd be higher.

Charles (NY)
Should Nerlens Noel declare for the draft, where might he get picked? Does the ACL injury knock him down far enough to remove him from a first round pick?

Chad Ford
(1:35 PM)
He's a lock for the Top 5 as long as there aren't any complications with his surgery or rehab. Players completely recover from ACL tears these days. In fact, he might be ready to go by NBA training camp in October. I'm not sure if he will declare or return to school. Either option will be a good choice. I know GMs were a bit hesitant right after the injury to say he could be the No. 1 pick, but I've seen them back off that assertion lately. If the right team gets the No. 1 pick, he could still be the guy.

Bill (MD)
Alex Len. Where does he go? What team would he fit well with?

Chad Ford
(1:46 PM)
He's a hard one to project right now. He's had some breakout games against Kentucky and Duke, but mixed in with those games are quite a few duds. Most scouts are willing to give him a pass on his poor games because of the poor guard play at Maryland. They don't make it easy on the big fella. I know some teams consider him a candidate for the No. 1 pick. I think he'll likely go somewhere in the Top 7 or 8 picks.

Brett (NO)
Do you think A. Bennett could be a SF at the next level?

Chad Ford
(1:49 PM)
I think most scouts project him as a four who will have the ability to stretch the defense. He's a little undersized, but has a big wingspan and an explosive vertical jump to make up for it. He's one of my favorite players in this draft. I think he could have a big NBA career if he lands on team who uses him the right way.

[The Human Q-Tip]

I know everyone likes to talk about LBJ coming back but the fact that DG has yet to acknowledge him by name in public, isn't a great sign.

It's a great sign that DG doesn't want to get hit with a tampering charge.

[ajz20]

Could someone post the FEb 28 draft column from Ford. He goes into detail about who he thinks each lottery team has at the top of their board. Many thanks in advance.