Dion Waiters (All-Rookie First Team)

[Czvosec]

Especially a version of Delonte+20lbs.

He's a better slasher than West. Not as good in the post though...

[catfish]

A couple of games in this is interesting: Who doesnt belong
Hollinger advanced stats
RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
1 Damian Lillard, POR 2 36.5 .551 27.3 12.1 28.1 1.5 8.7 4.8 27.42 17.9 0.6
2 Anthony Davis, NO 2 21.5 .660 0.0 4.4 21.2 13.6 19.8 16.9 26.28 9.5 0.3
3 Dion Waiters, CLE 2 26.5 .508 12.3 15.3 22.0 0.0 8.9 4.3 18.04 6.0 0.2
4 Bradley Beal, WSH 1 22.0 .450 21.6 14.4 21.5 0.0 16.8 7.0 16.30 1.9 0.1
5 Jonas Valanciunas, TOR 1 23.0 .400 0.0 0.0 25.4 24.1 23.2 23.7 14.60 1.4 0.0
6 Bernard James, DAL 1 16.0 .524 10.4 10.4 21.1 13.5 24.5 19.3 14.48 0.9 0.0
7 Kyle Singler, DET 2 20.0 1.071 0.0 22.2 8.5 5.3 5.9 5.6 13.86 2.0 0.1
8 Kim English, DET 2 14.5 .444 33.3 6.7 15.2 0.0 4.0 1.9 13.42 1.3 0.0
9 Jae Crowder, DAL 2 20.5 .424 9.6 0.0 18.0 0.0 14.3 7.5 11.30 0.5 0.0
10 Tyler Zeller, CLE 2 14.5 .538 0.0 7.6 17.5 7.7 8.2 7.9 10.79 0.1 0.0

11 Evan Fournier, DEN 2 8.5 .417 12.5 12.5 16.4 0.0 0.0 0.0 10.69 0.0 0.0
12 Harrison Barnes, GS 2 18.5 .543 11.8 11.8 16.0 5.8 3.3 4.6 10.64 0.1 0.0
13 Festus Ezeli, GS 2 13.0 .444 0.0 20.2 14.5 12.3 28.0 19.7 7.76 -1.1 -0.0
14 Austin Rivers, NO 2 26.5 .272 27.1 16.9 18.1 0.0 6.0 3.2 7.60 -2.3 -0.1
15 Jared Sullinger, BOS 2 13.0 .508 0.0 0.0 11.5 14.0 23.1 18.6 5.75 -2.2 -0.1
16 Andre Drummond, DET 2 16.0 .658 12.0 24.0 9.0 6.7 29.3 17.4 5.16 -2.6 -0.1
17 Darius Miller, NO 2 12.5 .375 40.0 20.0 11.7 0.0 8.5 4.5 5.10 -2.0 -0.1
18 Eddy Curry, DAL 2 12.5 .461 0.0 23.5 19.2 8.6 7.8 8.2 5.04 -2.1 -0.1
19 Meyers Leonard, POR 2 19.0 .754 15.1 15.1 6.0 0.0 23.3 10.7 3.61 -4.0 -0.1
20 Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, CHA 1 20.0 .143 11.1 11.1 15.7 10.0 26.7 18.1

[ArchieBunker7]

Sweet. Completely jumbled, advanced stats after 1 and 2 games.

I'm gonna guess MKG's 18.1 EWA, which is obviously either a typo or some sort of convoluted anomoly.

[ArchieBunker7]

Looking at the ESPN page itself, it appears that the 18.1 is supposed to be his REBR. Your numbers got fd somehow. The 26.7 VA is also listed improperly. That number is his DRR.

Were you trying to make a point about Lilliard's VA of 17.9? Is this your way of saying we should have drafted Lilliard to play next to Kyrie?

[D-Wreck]

I think he's trying to point out Eddy Curry being listed with the rookies

[ArchieBunker7]

Haha....ok. Now, in that case...funny stuff. And he's not even top 15.

Ok. Sorry to assume you were about to make this about Lilliard. Good find.

[RappSoda]

I like Dion's intensity on the floor. That said, I'm not sure if he can keep that kind of emotion going throughout the whole season.

[ArchieBunker7]

I like Dion's intensity on the floor. That said, I'm not sure if he can keep that kind of emotion going throughout the whole season.

I have zero understanding of what you are saying right now. this dude is in complete control all game. He never looks over exerted or in too deep. His biggest moments of intensity are after he makes big plays. Before that, he is ice.

[ArchieBunker7]

I think he plays with a chip now and for a long time. He has something to prove and I don't see that mentality changing anytime soon. Dion is near the bottom of the worry list for this team.

[cavsfanclanman]

I think in a month or so we're going to get used to have another solid player on our team and the talks of bust will be a faded memory. He really balls, and is playing great for a rookie in their 3rd game. So far top 3 rookie, and I don't know that anyone will upset that. Can't ask for more than that.

[Gimme Some Mo]

I am very happy with Dion so far. I've seen him do things off the dribble that I know mkg and Barnes will never do. Much better than Beal off the dribble too. Very excited SO FAR.

[howler1313]

He made some bad decisions in the clutch, but I love the aggressiveness he played with. Hopefully Byron keeps bringing him off the bench early in the 4th quarter when Kyrie is out, he seemed to naturally take over for a stretch there.

[Rich]

I know it's to early to say this but at this point I'm relieved Beal was taken before Waiters. I wanted Beal prior to the draft, but just seeing the two in an NBA game it would seem to me that Waiters is far more versatile a player. Can do way more with the ball than Beal could ever dream of doing.

EDIT: Also, looking at other rooks so far I think we're being to tough on Byron when he takes Dion out for long stretches. Dion is average 26 minutes a game. Barnes is getting 18. MKG is getting 20. Beal is getting 22. Standard for rooks to get low PT early in the season.

[elcheato]

I know it's to early to say this but at this point I'm relieved Beal was taken before Waiters. I wanted Beal prior to the draft, but just seeing the two in an NBA game it would seem to me that Waiters is far more versatile a player. Can do way more with the ball than Beal could ever dream of doing.

EDIT: Also, looking at other rooks so far I think we're being to tough on Byron when he takes Dion out for long stretches. Dion is average 26 minutes a game. Barnes is getting 18. MKG is getting 20. Beal is getting 22. Standard for rooks to get low PT early in the season.

26 minutes a game isn't enough when he appears to be the teams 2nd best scorer, and clearly is the only guy on the team other than Kyrie who can actually create offense.

[Rich]

26 minutes a game isn't enough when he appears to be the teams 2nd best scorer, and clearly is the only guy on the team other than Kyrie who can actually create offense.

Did you read what I wrote? Who do you think the Bobcats 2nd best player, or first for that matter? It's normal for rookies to be broken in slowly. You don't just throw them in for 40 minutes a night starting game 1.