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    Did anyone else notice that Chicago started running Hamilton off picks as soon as Dion went out in the third quarter last night? I did't watch the rest of the game, so I don't know if this continued, but it seemed that this was the case - Dion in, go somewhere else; Dion out, run Hamilton off screens...

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    I would like to see Dion finish at a better rate, but I like what I have seen nonetheless. His skill set compliments Irving's a lot more than people give him credit for. Also, after watching him a bit, he is actually a bit bigger than I expected.

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    I am pleased. I think Dion's competitive attitude is being embraced on the defensive end. At a stout 6'4 with great hands and feet, he's going to be a tough guy to score on if he keeps learning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrich91 View Post
    Would you totally LOVE it, dude?!

    Gimme a break. People were seriously overreacting to Dion's summer league and preseason performances. I could go find you some posts, but I actually don't really want to and would rather go out to the bars. So I'll do that instead.
    I'm glad you got offended by that.

    Don't worry, it wasn't me calling you out. It was me calling out everybody who has been yapping about about these phantom "Dion is a bust!" posts. Maybe one or two nutjobs without avatars posted that. I highly doubt this was widespread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fazel View Post
    Did anyone else notice that Chicago started running Hamilton off picks as soon as Dion went out in the third quarter last night? I did't watch the rest of the game, so I don't know if this continued, but it seemed that this was the case - Dion in, go somewhere else; Dion out, run Hamilton off screens...
    I noticed the same thing. I'm happy that Dion's drive and dish game appears to have a good chance at translating to a high NBA level. The surprise for me has been that Dion has been a much better defender then what I was expecting. Particularly with his ability to stick with his man (Beal, Hamilton) we may have found ourselves another Delonte West type if he continues to work on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pioneer10 View Post
    I noticed the same thing. I'm happy that Dion's drive and dish game appears to have a good chance at translating to a high NBA level. The surprise for me has been that Dion has been a much better defender then what I was expecting. Particularly with his ability to stick with his man (Beal, Hamilton) we may have found ourselves another Delonte West type if he continues to work on it.
    D-West without the issues could be amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McOhio View Post
    D-West without the issues could be amazing.
    Especially a version of Delonte+20lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcfly View Post
    Especially a version of Delonte+20lbs.
    He's a better slasher than West. Not as good in the post though...

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    A couple of games in this is interesting: Who doesnt belong
    Hollinger advanced stats
    RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
    1 Damian Lillard, POR 2 36.5 .551 27.3 12.1 28.1 1.5 8.7 4.8 27.42 17.9 0.6
    2 Anthony Davis, NO 2 21.5 .660 0.0 4.4 21.2 13.6 19.8 16.9 26.28 9.5 0.3
    3 Dion Waiters, CLE 2 26.5 .508 12.3 15.3 22.0 0.0 8.9 4.3 18.04 6.0 0.2
    4 Bradley Beal, WSH 1 22.0 .450 21.6 14.4 21.5 0.0 16.8 7.0 16.30 1.9 0.1
    5 Jonas Valanciunas, TOR 1 23.0 .400 0.0 0.0 25.4 24.1 23.2 23.7 14.60 1.4 0.0
    6 Bernard James, DAL 1 16.0 .524 10.4 10.4 21.1 13.5 24.5 19.3 14.48 0.9 0.0
    7 Kyle Singler, DET 2 20.0 1.071 0.0 22.2 8.5 5.3 5.9 5.6 13.86 2.0 0.1
    8 Kim English, DET 2 14.5 .444 33.3 6.7 15.2 0.0 4.0 1.9 13.42 1.3 0.0
    9 Jae Crowder, DAL 2 20.5 .424 9.6 0.0 18.0 0.0 14.3 7.5 11.30 0.5 0.0
    10 Tyler Zeller, CLE 2 14.5 .538 0.0 7.6 17.5 7.7 8.2 7.9 10.79 0.1 0.0

    11 Evan Fournier, DEN 2 8.5 .417 12.5 12.5 16.4 0.0 0.0 0.0 10.69 0.0 0.0
    12 Harrison Barnes, GS 2 18.5 .543 11.8 11.8 16.0 5.8 3.3 4.6 10.64 0.1 0.0
    13 Festus Ezeli, GS 2 13.0 .444 0.0 20.2 14.5 12.3 28.0 19.7 7.76 -1.1 -0.0
    14 Austin Rivers, NO 2 26.5 .272 27.1 16.9 18.1 0.0 6.0 3.2 7.60 -2.3 -0.1
    15 Jared Sullinger, BOS 2 13.0 .508 0.0 0.0 11.5 14.0 23.1 18.6 5.75 -2.2 -0.1
    16 Andre Drummond, DET 2 16.0 .658 12.0 24.0 9.0 6.7 29.3 17.4 5.16 -2.6 -0.1
    17 Darius Miller, NO 2 12.5 .375 40.0 20.0 11.7 0.0 8.5 4.5 5.10 -2.0 -0.1
    18 Eddy Curry, DAL 2 12.5 .461 0.0 23.5 19.2 8.6 7.8 8.2 5.04 -2.1 -0.1
    19 Meyers Leonard, POR 2 19.0 .754 15.1 15.1 6.0 0.0 23.3 10.7 3.61 -4.0 -0.1
    20 Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, CHA 1 20.0 .143 11.1 11.1 15.7 10.0 26.7 18.1

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    Sweet. Completely jumbled, advanced stats after 1 and 2 games.

    I'm gonna guess MKG's 18.1 EWA, which is obviously either a typo or some sort of convoluted anomoly.

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    Looking at the ESPN page itself, it appears that the 18.1 is supposed to be his REBR. Your numbers got fd somehow. The 26.7 VA is also listed improperly. That number is his DRR.

    Were you trying to make a point about Lilliard's VA of 17.9? Is this your way of saying we should have drafted Lilliard to play next to Kyrie?

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    I think he's trying to point out Eddy Curry being listed with the rookies

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    Haha....ok. Now, in that case...funny stuff. And he's not even top 15.

    Ok. Sorry to assume you were about to make this about Lilliard. Good find.

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    I like Dion's intensity on the floor. That said, I'm not sure if he can keep that kind of emotion going throughout the whole season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rap Soda View Post
    I like Dion's intensity on the floor. That said, I'm not sure if he can keep that kind of emotion going throughout the whole season.
    I have zero understanding of what you are saying right now. this dude is in complete control all game. He never looks over exerted or in too deep. His biggest moments of intensity are after he makes big plays. Before that, he is ice.

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