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    I've been thrilled with Dion so far this season but I don't know if I've seen another player who every shot he takes comes with a defender right up in his grill. I know his shooting % is bound to dip a little, esp from the outside but I don't think it will be a big deal as he continues to learn when to attack the basket.
    Didn't world be free have that crazy high arching behind the head jumper? He always shot with someone in his face

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    Kyrie's shooting efficiency is out of this world for a rookie PG, but a rich man's Daniel Gibson isn't one of the best PGs in the league. He needs to keep improving his actual PG skills (running plays, setting up others, delivering the ball where guys can catch it, etc, etc) to get up in the top echelon.

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    So did Dion get hurt or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dshuks View Post
    So did Dion get hurt or something?
    Yes, two games ago...battling through a painful thigh injury. I'm assuming it's why he was shut down tonight.

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    ER MIN FG 3PT FT REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS
    1 D. Gibson 29 6/12 1/5 3/3 5 0 1 0 0 1 -24 16
    30 J. Leuer 24 2/8 0/1 0/2 2 2 0 0 0 2 -9 4
    36 O. Casspi 14 1/7 1/4 4/4 4 0 2 0 1 2 -4 7
    24 S. Samuels 6 0/0 0/0 0/0 1 0 0 0 0 2 -9 0
    8 J. Pargo 2 1/1 0/0 0/0 0 0 1 0 0 0 +4 2
    SHOW BENCH
    2 K. Irving 34 9/16 2/3 0/2 4 5 1 0 4 1 -14 20
    17 A. Varejao 33 2/8 0/0 2/4 8 6 2 0 3 3 -13 6
    13 T. Thompson 33 3/6 0/0 4/4 8 1 2 0 1 3 +1 10
    33 A. Gee 32 7/17 2/7 2/2 0 1 2 0 0 3 -11 18
    3 D. Waiters 21 3/6 1/2 1/2 4 0 0 0 2 2 +9 8
    15 D. Sloan 12 0/2 0/1 0/0 0 4 0 0 1 0 -5 0
    4 L. Walton - - - - - - - - - - - -
    0 C. Miles - - - - - - - - - - - -
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    Interesting that Dion was one of 2 cavaliers in the positive for the +/- I think it speaks to what he brings to the court

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    Byron Scott on Dion Waiters not playing hardly in 2nd - Boobie was hot & it was a Dion issue & we'll leave it at that!

    Byron Scott just said Dion Waiters leg is OK.
    hmm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by *L-Train* View Post
    hmm...
    Byron loses touch with his players. It happened in New Jersey and it happened in New Orleans. I'm afraid it will also happen here.

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    And this is what I've always feared.

    Byron tends to be a hard ass with some players and not with others.

    Byron probably shut down Waiters because of "defense" or some stupid reason, yet Kyrie goes unchecked on his defense.

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    Waiters has struck me as a player a coach might need to get tough with once in a while. Have no idea what it could have been about but now is the time to do it and get the lesson taught while he's a rookie and the Cavs aren't exactly in position to contend. There's also the chance this could end up being much ado about nothing.

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    Pretty sure it was his shot selection in the early 3rd. He took a couple of long, tough shots that didn't go in. I have no problem with Scott giving him some tough love; as good as Dion has played, he IS a headstrong rookie who seems to need a kick in the ass every so often to get going. I'd love to see him fight harder for easy shots instead of settling for the long jumpers that he's hitting right now.

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    It's because Irving is effusive in his praise and bordering on obsequious with his comments regarding Scott. Byron seems to demand that from players--hence being booted the fuck out of NJ and NO when players tuned his bullshit out.

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    From Jason Lloyd
    BScott wasn't happy with Waiters tonight, but he's not saying why.

    Asked Byron why no Waiters in the fourth quarter, if it was a Boobie issue or a Dion issue. "A little of both," he said, but wouldn't elaborate.

    Waiters said he was surprised he didn't play in fourth quarter and said Byron didn't give him an explanation.

    I asked if he thought he was playing OK.

    "I was 3 for 6," he said.

    I asked him if he thought Byron had a problem with anything he did defensively.

    "No," he said. "I don't know. I can't explain it."

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    I'm surprised Scott has played Dion as many mpg this season as he has. Last season Irving had to sit on the bench while God awful Ramon Sessions was eating up minutes.

    I've certainly liked what I've seen from the offense while Dion has been out there, but I'm a little worried that he has been killing ball movement with his long jumpshots. I see this as a way for Scott to get Dion to work harder on his drive and dish game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silky Smooth View Post
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    "I don't know. I can't explain it?" Byron sounds like an emotional girlfriend that won't give Dion a straight answer. Stop taking the damn estrogen pills, Scott!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    Kyrie's shooting efficiency is out of this world for a rookie PG, but a rich man's Daniel Gibson isn't one of the best PGs in the league. He needs to keep improving his actual PG skills (running plays, setting up others, delivering the ball where guys can catch it, etc, etc) to get up in the top echelon.

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    If sitting Waiters down was to make a point about shot selection, and team play then i'd have to think Gee would be benched after the first two minutes he takes the court so far this season. It's almost comical to think of Byron thinking his message would resonate after seeing how much other guys get away with.

    Grant needs to bring in a total nutcase so Byron can practice his ego massaging, selective, "old school" bullshit without it hurting the team.

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