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    Haven't gotten much of a chance to watch the Cavs this year. Tough while being on 3rd shift. But I'm starting to make it a priority. What I hate most about Waiters now is what I love most about him in 3 years. The kid will shoot, shoot and shoot. He doesn't get timid when his shot isn't falling. He keeps on chucking. Trying to shoot himself out of a slump is a great mindset for a player. He's a hound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kizzle View Post
    Yep and weve all taken notice of him. You also have his PPG? I dont really care about that raw stat i look more at percenatges, but it is also good to have awareness of the raw stats too
    basketball-reference.com allows you to click on games in a player's game log to select a range of games. Here is his line over the last 30 days:

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...-sum:pgl_basic

    For those that can't get to that link, he's averaging 14.6 pts on .429/.306/.786 shooting in the last 30 days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pr26 View Post
    It's always funny to watch these type of debates, because you can always tell who actually watches the games and who just randomly checks a box score or a players stats once in a while.
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    He is playing a very different style now and his mechanics are different. He needs to continue to work at it though, I'd like to see his three point shot take a jump this offseason. While he is at his best driving he'll get looks when Kyrie drives so he needs to be more reliable out there.

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    Going to the basket, the dude does look eerily similar to Wade. I get the comparisons. They don't share much else in common, but Waiters could learn a lot from Wade's game 8-10 feet out in particular. In that series alone, there were three baskets 7-10 foot baskets that I'd love for him to replicate 4-5 times a game. If the dude can put it together like this almost every game next year, the 6th man talk will go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiglet View Post
    Going to the basket, the dude does look eerily similar to Wade. I get the comparisons. They don't share much else in common, but Waiters could learn a lot from Wade's game 8-10 feet out in particular. In that series alone, there were three baskets 7-10 foot baskets that I'd love for him to replicate 4-5 times a game. If the dude can put it together like this almost every game next year, the 6th man talk will go away.

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    Dion came into the NBA with a cocky confidence. It was easy to see he had a partial sense of entitlement. After all, he didn't even have to perform any of the workout jazz for any team before the draft.

    All this was shaken once he experienced the speed of the NBA game and the skill level of the players. His prior bag of tricks wasn't fooling many NBA ballers. Then he showed a tendency to bark at the refs, never a good idea for a rookie. Combine these things and he ends up in Scotts' unofficial doghouse, coming off the bench.

    He had to be thinking 'WTF?'

    I give him credit for rolling with it and showing a willingness to work on the weaknesses in his floor game and attitude. The extra practice time shows Dion is hungry to raise his game. Let's hope we look at his game in another month and easily see consistent solid performances, cutting down on the stinkers. I'm wanting to see the effort game after game.

    I also think he wouldn't mind getting his game up to a level where he starts getting some of the national love being thrown at Kyrie.


    It will be interesting to see what kind of performance he has in the Rising Stars game.

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    He has a nice chemistry with Zeller: started in the summer league but it shows in the highlight they have a good feel for where the other wants the ball.
    If Tyler can do the necessary physical work and get stronger, a lot of Dion's assists are going to come from feeding Zeller and vice versa. Also, it would be nice to see if Zeller can get back to running the floor hard as I think guys like Dion and Kyrie will be able to find him
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    Waiters has that first step and a natural juke that no-one can stay in front of. Waiters just knows how to zag when the guy guarding him thinks he's going to zig, and he does it thoughtlessly and effortlessly.

    These are things you can't teach, it's an innate ability. Waiters idolized Iverson and if there's anything he somehow stole at an early age it was that ability to get past his man and leave him a step behind in the dust.

    All the other comparisons don't really hold a lot of water. Beyond that first move, Waiters is a pretty unique player and I find it pretty hard to find anyone to really compare him to.

    That's a good thing IMO, he's an original when you combine the total package of attitude, physical ability, body type, and learned skills.

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    Noticed this a lot more the last few games: I think Waiters is learning how to consistently change speeds on his drives to keep the D off balance. Early in the year it was all straight line drives, but now he's shown off a bit of a stop/start move right before he commits to the drive.

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    Two 50% shooting games in a row!


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    I agree with Howler. That hesitation move along with his quick first step have helped him a lot. We are definitely seeing flashes of brilliance from Waiters. I am starting to really like the pairing of him and Kyrie. They are both good passers and both good with the ball. If Waiters offense keeps improving teams will really struggle to match-up with our back court.

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    I think the biggest thing I've noticed is that he just looks more mature out there. He seems like he is starting to mentally get what he's doing. He's looked more team oriented, taken much better shots, and seems to have understood/accepted his role in ways we haven't seen from him before. I always thought this was going to be his biggest hurdle, so if this is a legit transformation/growth we're seeing from him, it's going to really aid in his development from here on out. He even referenced it in the post game interview, and acknowledged Byron pointing it out. Big step.

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    Waiters signing autographs for some kids after the game (via Twitter):


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Brickman View Post
    Waiters signing autographs for some kids after the game (via Twitter):

    Is that girl wearing Bill Russel's Chuck T's?

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