Dion Waiters (All-Rookie First Team)

[Randolphkeys]

Do you mean a 6th man combo-guard type? Because your description also fits the prototypical 6'6" superstar SG that everyone has been looking for since Jordan and a number of modern PGs fit that description as well. Multi-talented players are always highly coveted.

Since the rule changes, there's certainly more demand for the tweener/combo-guards, but whether they actually enjoy an advantage is an interesting question. Certainly Kyrie has a lot easier time splitting a trap and dribbling around in the paint than say James did. It's just a lot easier for the smaller player to fit through spaces and maintain his dribble. That sure doesn't negate the advantages of size & strength, though.

I was talking about a prototypical sixth man type. If Waiters were 6'6 he gets drafted before MKG. I was describing more of a Leandro Barbosa (in his prime) or a young Monta Ellis. Those guys could play off of their star point guards as shooting guards then take over point duties when Nash and Baron would take a break.

Waiters and his 2/1 assist to turnover ratio in college would have been great for a shooting guard, but as a true point guard he would have looked like a guy who needs to develop. The Cavs seem to have drafted him as a shooting guard but want him to develop his point guard skills later on. Waiters isn't getting any taller, but I was trying to express the need for positional flexibility with a star like Irving.

[Jon]

I was describing more of a Leandro Barbosa (in his prime) or a young Monta Ellis. Those guys could play off of their star point guards as shooting guards then take over point duties when Nash and Baron would take a break.

Yeah, those situations always seem to be more of a stop gap, as opposed to a desired solution.

[Pioneer10]

Waiters shooting percentage would be helped tremendously if he just freakin finishes his uncontested layups.

I haven't seen someone miss so many bunnies since David Wesley was in town. I just don't get it, he does an absolute great job in getting right to the rack and then plop blows it

[Gimme Some Mo]

This is getting ridiculous. He's not just missing average difficult layups anymore.... He is consistently missing WIDE OPEN layups. There is NO excuse for that. None. The guy just can't finish. Period. He has to improve this area TREMENDOUSLY or he will be a stiff in this league.

[Numbers Guy]

Its definitely psychological at this point.. the guy can obviously make lay ups.

I really, really like the Cavs running Dion off screens .. the shot isn't falling right now .. and he'll get the ball in better spots once Irving is back in the line up.. I'm definitely excited about that aspect.

[Randolphkeys]

Interestingly he started opposite Jarryd Bayless. When Waiters struggles, he looks a lot like Bayless.

[Malt]

This is getting ridiculous. He's not just missing average difficult layups anymore.... He is consistently missing WIDE OPEN layups. There is NO excuse for that. None. The guy just can't finish. Period. He has to improve this area TREMENDOUSLY or he will be a stiff in this league.

It's a good thing he's a rookie who should have a few years to figure it out...

[chrisrich91]

This is getting ridiculous. He's not just missing average difficult layups anymore.... He is consistently missing WIDE OPEN layups. There is NO excuse for that. None. The guy just can't finish. Period. He has to improve this area TREMENDOUSLY or he will be a stiff in this league.

He's missing wide open bunnies. This isn't a finishing problem like Daniel Gibson, in which it's a serious detriment to his career. This is a finishing problem like Kyrie had a touch of last season, but just magnified because Dion isn't the remarkably polished, once in a decade superstar rookie that Kyrie was.

I'll make a sizeable donation to RCF if he's still missing them at this clip later in his career. It's just not going to continue. He's getting to the rack. That's the real story. The finishing will come.

IMPROVE TREMENDOUSLY from where you are at the beginning of your rookie season or you'll be A STIFF IN THIS LEAGUE.

People are so overdramatic about the young kids. Read what you've typed out before clicking "post".

[Gimme Some Mo]

It's a good thing he's a rookie who should have a few years to figure it out...

Being a rookie is not an excuse for missing wide open layups. Being a 6th grader is not an excuse for missing wide open layups.

[chrisrich91]

Being a rookie is not an excuse for missing wide open layups. Being a 6th grader is not an excuse for missing wide open layups.

Come back to me when the 6th grader is trying to shake the natural tendency to look over his shoulder for the multiple 7 footers trying to block his layup.

ROOKIE.

[Gimme Some Mo]

He's missing wide open bunnies. This isn't a finishing problem like Daniel Gibson, in which it's a serious detriment to his career. This is a finishing problem like Kyrie had a touch of last season, but just magnified because Dion isn't the remarkably polished, once in a decade superstar rookie that Kyrie was.

I'll make a sizeable donation to RCF if he's still missing them at this clip later in his career. It's just not going to continue. He's getting to the rack. That's the real story. The finishing will come.

IMPROVE TREMENDOUSLY from where you are at the beginning of your rookie season or you'll be A STIFF IN THIS LEAGUE.

People are so overdramatic about the young kids. Read what you've typed out before clicking "post".

Sorry, I forgot guys miss wide open layups because they are rookies. Not because he doesn't have a left hand, touch, or isn't too athletic.

[chrisrich91]

Sorry, I forgot guys miss wide open layups because they are rookies. Not because he doesn't have a left hand, touch, or isn't too athletic.

I'm sitting here watching the game and just laughing at you right now. Just laughing.

DUDE CAN'T MAKE LAYUPS!!

[Malt]

Being a rookie is not an excuse for missing wide open layups. Being a 6th grader is not an excuse for missing wide open layups.

The NBA game is much faster than the college game. Dion is doing a fairly remarkable job keeping up this early in his career, but he will need time to get a natural rhythm and learn how to play successfully in the NBA. And yes, until he develops that rhythm he will make some mistakes, like missing some of his layups.

Edit - I hate swype.

[Pioneer10]

He had a good game overall tonight going against one of the best defenders in the league in Tony Allen despite another poor shooting performance.

Although it's funny just when I think he's going to shoot 50% from the field, he misses somes shot. On the plus side I think he actually used his left hand to finish two layups tonight. Unless my brain is making it up because I want to see him to it, that's a definite improvement

[Riou]

I think he may have used his right hand for one of those lay ups. I think i remember him moving his body so he could use his right hand for the lay up instead of switching to to his left.