2012-2013 Indians Red Hot Offseason Thread (Bourn signed post 1940)

[Snarly]

Hell of a lot of talk, but no show so far.

You should be used to this being an Indians fan. At least our GM didn't say to expect a huge move this off season so that Is good.

[b00bie]

That's how Antonetti does things. Spikes interest in the fans, and then does nothing to show for it.

Yeah, he must have known Shane Victorino rumors would really spurn ticket sales.

[Gimme Some Mo]

Shane Victorino.... 13 mil per year.... Man. I used to love baseball. What a joke. In 5 years, the top players are going to be commanding $40 million a year salaries.

I just don't get it. How can there not be some sort of salary cap. Boggles my brain every time I think about it. Makes no fucking sense.

[b00bie]

Shane Victorino.... 13 mil per year.... Man. I used to love baseball. What a joke. In 5 years, the top players are going to be commanding $40 million a year salaries.

I just don't get it. How can there not be some sort of salary cap. Boggles my brain every time I think about it. Makes no fucking sense.

Worse yet, they're all guaranteed.

Victorino's arm falls off tomorrow....sucks, but you still pay him.

[SRStark20]

I've been wondering a bit about all of this for the past few hours now, and it just seems like we are all over the place.


What do you guys want them to do?

[I.K.W.T]

Yeah, he must have known Shane Victorino rumors would really spurn ticket sales.

I was actually ready to camp out for 3 days to buy season tickets if we got the Flyin' Hawaiian. What marketing potential!!!

[MoFlo]

Not sure who this is (Says former MLB scout), but he's been talking back & forth with Lastoria, but still, take it for what it's worth:

Will Joyce‏@wahoowillie13

@TonyIPI Spent weekend with D-Backs scout at camp this weekend. He said they want to trade Bauer because of mechanics and potential arm prob

[b00bie]

Not sure who this is (Says former MLB scout), but he's been talking back & forth with Lastoria, but still, take it for what it's worth:

Hey Trev, here's an idea....stop warming up by throwing foul pole to foul pole.

Your pal,

Sanity

[elcheato]

Can't believe the Indians actually offered that deal to Victorino. Red Sox bailed us out big time.

[Tecumseh]

That's how Antonetti does things. Spikes interest in the fans, and then does nothing to show for it.

Antonetti doesn't leak things to the media. Agents do that. Unfortunately, free agents use the Indians to drive up their price. Moves are most common when they aren't talked about. The last thing Antonetti wants are media leaks. However, because there are so many agents and players in baseball, leaks are almost unavoidable.

[Damage]

That's how Antonetti does things. Spikes interest in the fans, and then does nothing to show for it.

Stop it.

Do you realize how complicated trades are? For every 100 offers only 3-5 actually happen (for the math nerds that's 5%).

[Damage]

I've been wondering a bit about all of this for the past few hours now, and it just seems like we are all over the place.


What do you guys want them to do?

* Re: Asdrubal trade:
#1. Asdrubal for Upton
#2. Asdrubal for Skaggs & Bauer (
#3. Asdrubal for Skaggs & Kubel
#4. Asdrubal for Bauer & Kubel

* Keep Masterson
* Trade Vinny to the Mets for Wheeler
* Sign Swisher for the same deal you offered Victorino

So, in summary:

Justin Upton
Nick Swisher
Zack Wheeler
Perez for best offer
Choo for best offer

hey, you asked what I wanted

[macbdog]

Can't believe the Indians actually offered that deal to Victorino. Red Sox bailed us out big time.

One thing that I think plays in Victorino's favor is he still has his speed. For the drop in his pop, he still has the legs and that leads me to believe he can bounce back. But for 4 years? Heck yeah it saved the Tribe.

[sjhughes]

I know this isnt for the Indians off season, but Alex White just got traded again and is now a member of the Astros.

[Damage]

Blockbuster brewing with the Indians and other teams?

According to Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports, he says that "a blockbuster could be in the works". The teams involved are the Indians, Diamondbacks, Rays, and Rangers.

In one proposed deal Rosenthal says Upton would go to the Rangers, Cabrera to the Diamondbacks, and the Indians would get a package of young talent which possibly includes infielder Mike Olt.

Tony Lastoria ‏@TonyIPI
@1nter In that 3-team deal with the Rangers and DBacks, there is talk the Indians could net both Bauer and Olt.