2012-2013 Indians Red Hot Offseason Thread (Bourn signed post 1940)

[SRStark20]

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I'm assuming that the Dodgers have offered him a number roughly equivalent to the current value of the country of Sudan?

[Pyro]

b00bie still work for the Dodgers? He should demand a $20 million pay raise.

[macbdog]

b00bie still work for the Dodgers? He should demand a $20 million pay raise.

B00bie is currently dragging the 1988 World Series trophy with his Prius through the Chavez Ravine parking lot as we speak...

[sgm405]

This. We've got our young guys like Kipnis, Brantley, Santana, and Chisenhall, along with prospects such as Yan Gomes and Lars Anderson that should all be at a high level in three years time. Our pitching is what concerns me.

It concerns the Indians as well. Trading for Aviles allows them to deal Cabrera for pitching. Signing Swisher would allow them to do the same with Choo. I think we have three solid, young rotation options right now - Masterson, Carrasco, and McCallister. What we need is a young SP with ace potential (like Bauer, Skaggs, Hultzen).

[SRStark20]

It concerns the Indians as well. Trading for Aviles allows them to deal Cabrera for pitching. Signing Swisher would allow them to do the same with Choo. I think we have three solid, young rotation options right now - Masterson, Carrasco, and McCallister. What we need is a young SP with ace potential (like Bauer, Skaggs, Hultzen).

I just wish that damn Ubaldo could bounce back and actually pitch well. We don't even need him back in his ace form. A fourteen win, 4.00 ERA Ubaldo would go a long way to helping us next season.

[Huber.]

I just wish that damn Ubaldo could bounce back and actually pitch well. We don't even need him back in his ace form. A fourteen win, 4.00 ERA Ubaldo would go a long way to helping us next season.

Yes we do.

[SRStark20]

Yes we do.

I think it is more likely that Hannahan comes out and belts thirty home runs next year before Ubaldo resembles anything of an ace anytime soon. I was trying to compromise.

[sgm405]

Yes we do.

Not really. 14 wins and a 4.00 ERA would be great output at this point.

[Stephen]

b00bie still work for the Dodgers? He should demand a $20 million pay raise.

So accurate.

It would literally make you ill how little baseball people outside of baseball operations make.

Great job, though.

[Pyro]

I don't know why you're being hostile, I was making a joke based on the fact that they are literally handing out money now.

[MoFlo]

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[Huber.]

Not really. 14 wins and a 4.00 ERA would be great output at this point.

3rd place.

[SRStark20]

3rd place.

But think if Ubaldo is our fourth or fifth best pitcher by this point. All of a sudden, those numbers look fantastic from your #5 guy.

Say we trade Asdrubal and get Skaggs.

1. Masterson
2. McAllister
3. Skaggs
4. Carassco
5. Jiminez

[shoes22]

McCalister is a #2 pitcher? I've seen nothing out of him that indicates he can be that good.

Also, the person who said that the Indians can trade Choo if we sign Swisher...I don't see it. We're not going after Swisher to get more depth, we're trying to fill a hole. You also have the added complication that Swisher would want to DH some days. If you trade Choo...you have Brantley as the only competent outfielder on the roster.

[JMcCurry08]

Nothing new on Cabrera trade front, but hearing Indians still not getting anything close to what they would want for Choo if they dealt him.

— Tony Lastoria (@TonyIPI) December 11, 2012