2012-2013 Indians Red Hot Offseason Thread (Bourn signed post 1940)

[b00bie]

Would love an update on Carlos Carrasco's health, but I doubt with the Indians general outlook on providing injury info that they'll give one.

He has more potential than Masterson, in my honest opinion.

[elcheato]

Trevor Bauer is awesome.

Nice trade, especially considering we all knew Choo was gone at the end of the year.

Drew Stubbs is one of the worst regulars in the MLB though.

[Damage]

Trevor Bauer is awesome.

Nice trade, especially considering we all knew Choo was gone at the end of the year.

Drew Stubbs is one of the worst regulars in the MLB though.

Advanced stats suggest otherwise. To wit:
jeff ellis ‏@jeffIPI
So I got some good news on Drew Stubbs, last year was first awful year had been a 2/3 win player before. BABIP last year 43 pts below avg

jeff ellis ‏@jeffIPI
He had been consistent over the first 3 years, this shows he was incredibly unlucky last year, and should be in for a rebound

jeff ellis ‏@jeffIPI
Warming to Stubbs stats show he was extremely unlucky, great bounce back candidate

[OhioSlayer]

This was one hell of trade. I firmly believe this would of never happened if we never sign Francona. He has brought a new attitude to Cleveland baseball, a certain confidence. Still can't believe what we got on paper for a guy who had no interest in staying here.

Hats off to Cleveland tonight.

[jhard]

What kind of deals are Cody Ross & Edwin Jackson looking for in FA?

both would be welcomed with open arms by me, all things considered.

[Huber.]

Any interest in Matt Diaz? Might be due for a bounce back year but wouldn't hold my breath at age 35....man the RF free agent list is thin. The Cubs got a steal for Nate Schierholtz.

[ReAL DeAL]

In Bauer's cup of coffee last season, 1-2 with 16.1 IP, 17 K's, 6.06 ERA, 1.65 WHIP.

[AMC]

Wouldn't mind picking up Capuano or Harang from the Dodgers. Both could be had for cheap.

[SRStark20]

If Drew Stubbs could put together a .240/20/75 campaign with good fielding, you would not hear one complaint from me.

With Reynolds? .225/30/90 is close to what I'd be happy with.

[Tecumseh]

#Indians are not done. This trade is tip of the iceberg. They are going hard after a SP and OF in free agency.

— Tony Lastoria (@TonyIPI) December 12, 2012

Fuck it, we're getting Hamilton

[JiggleIt]

Advanced stats suggest otherwise. To wit:
jeff ellis ‏@jeffIPI
So I got some good news on Drew Stubbs, last year was first awful year had been a 2/3 win player before. BABIP last year 43 pts below avg

jeff ellis ‏@jeffIPI
He had been consistent over the first 3 years, this shows he was incredibly unlucky last year, and should be in for a rebound

jeff ellis ‏@jeffIPI
Warming to Stubbs stats show he was extremely unlucky, great bounce back candidate

Unlucky or not, the guy still strikes out over 160 times a year and has never OBP'd over .330. I'm not sure what kind of bounce back or consistency they're looking for, because he's a good, but not great player.

In spite of that, the trade and the Reynolds signing look better on paper than I've come to expect from the Tribe. Neither Stubbs nor Reynolds are going to be difference makers on this team and I guarantee there are long stretches where people beg for them to be gotten rid of due to their inconsistency. BUT...they're still two guys actually have a proven track record of being able to hit the ball at all, so that's a notch up.

Bauer is what that trade will be judged by though, anyways.

[Pyro]

Fuck it, we're getting Hamilton

If that happens, oh boy, LOL. I think this site will change it's name to RealTribeFans.

[OhioSlayer]

Could we see Hamilton sign a one year deal, ala Juan Gone a few years back, and then break the bank after next season?

Am I being greedy?

[Damage]

In Bauer's cup of coffee last season, 1-2 with 16.1 IP, 17 K's, 6.06 ERA, 1.65 WHIP.

Let's also note he was 21 and also pitched 6 shutout innings against LA with 6 k's.

[Juicy]

Carrasco had the surgery done in Sept 2011, I figure he's set to go for spring training unless he had a set back at some point.