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    Default Re: 2012-2013 Indians Offseason Thread (Mark Reynolds signed, Francona hired)

    Dice K & Kazmir would have been awesome 5 years ago


    Anyone have a list of all the spring training invites?
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    Default Re: 2012-2013 Indians Offseason Thread (Mark Reynolds signed, Francona hired)

    Quote Originally Posted by kriegz View Post
    Hey if they don't show something in spring training they don't make the team....the large percent of these has-beens will be has-beens but if 1 or 2 find there stuff and stick it will be worth it. Low risk, medium to high reward. I like it, A LOT...count me as pumped for this season..
    Not like we can afford do anything more. We have always tried these kind of moves, low risk high reward.

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    Default Re: 2012-2013 Indians Offseason Thread (Mark Reynolds signed, Francona hired)

    Quote Originally Posted by bigfoot5415 View Post
    Dice K Kazmir would have been awesome 5 years ago


    Anyone have a list of all the spring training invites?
    http://cleveland.indians.mlb.com/tea...i.jsp?c_id=cle

    No Dice-K yet. But the rest are there.

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    Default Re: 2012-2013 Indians Offseason Thread (Mark Reynolds signed, Francona hired)

    I'm sure we all remember when Bob Howry got a similar deal and went on to pitch 2 seasons with us for a combined ERA under 3.00

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    Default Re: 2012-2013 Indians Offseason Thread (Mark Reynolds signed, Francona hired)

    I like Dice-K, Rayburn, Kazmir, etc. Low risk and the potential for a reward. This isn't like the Damon signing - Damon was brought in with expectations to produce right away with the ball club. These guys are coming in to be evaluated and see if they work. No harm.

    SIDE NOTE: Check out Indians.com. They have a background featuring Francona and Swisher in Indians gear. Nice photoshop job haha.


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    Really hoping this one pans out. The Tribe needs a little luck in the starting pitching department. No, take that back, they need a LOT of luck.


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    Default Re: 2012-2013 Indians Offseason Thread (Mark Reynolds signed, Francona hired)

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunther View Post
    Really hoping this one pans out. The Tribe needs a little luck in the starting pitching department. No, take that back, they need a LOT of luck.


    The Terry Francona effect seems to be helping the Indians already. Swisher and Kazmir both could be on different teams, but if Francona sees the potential in them, we should too.

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    Default Re: 2012-2013 Indians Offseason Thread (Mark Reynolds signed, Francona hired)

    I dont see how anyone could complain about the signing of these players. Francona has said he wants as much pitching depth as possible and any form of competition or guidance from veteran players can prove to be beneficial for our team of very young players who lacked leadership last year which many people on here frequently pointed out. I see no issue in minor league contracts for players who have had success because if they can turn it around then we are in a very good situation and if not then we aren't wasting money and they can easily be let go.

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    Default Re: 2012-2013 Indians Offseason Thread (Mark Reynolds signed, Francona hired)

    I'll never understand one complaining about a minor league deal.

    1) It costs the team basically nothing, and the money they do get isn't coming out of your wallet
    2) If it does pan out, the Indians get a productive player and/or minor league depth for the cost of nothing. If it doesn't pan out, the team cuts ties with the player and moves on.
    3) Every single team does this. The Yankees, Giants, Rangers, Red Sox...every...single...team.

    This is a great sign though. When the Dolan/Indians haters have nothing to complain about except for giving minor league deals to guys who likely won't impact the major league team, it means they had a great offseason. Sign a big free agent? Check. Acquire a potential ace? Check. Hire a manager who is a proven winner? Check. Upgrades at 1B, RF, LF, SP, and Bullpen? Check.

    It's going to be a fun summer at Progressive Field...

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    Default Re: 2012-2013 Indians Offseason Thread (Mark Reynolds signed, Francona hired)

    Anyone comparing this to signing a Johnny Damon doesn't really grasp the concept of a minor league deal.

    Matsu and Kazmir, if proven healthy, can pay a significant dividend.
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    The team should make frosted hair mandatory, officially pretending that its the 2006 season. At the very least, I want to see some blonde-dyed flavor savor goatees...
    “It's hard for winners to do comedy. Comedy is inherently subversive. We represent the underdog as comedy usually speaks for the lower classes. We attack the winners.” ~Harold Ramis

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    Default Re: 2012-2013 Indians Offseason Thread (Mark Reynolds signed, Francona hired)

    Someone asked for a list of NRI for Spring Training:

    P:

    Matt Capps
    Jerry Gil
    Preston Guilmet
    Rich Hill (L)
    Scott Kazmir (L)
    Matt Langwell
    Joe Martinez
    Fernando Nieve
    Edward Paredes (L)
    Giovanni Soto (L)

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    Brian Jeroloman
    Roberto Perez
    Omir Santos

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    Jesus Aguilar
    Jason Giambi
    Luis Hernandez
    Matt LaPorta
    Ryan Raburn
    Nate Spears
    Matt Carson
    Ben Francisco
    Jeremy Hermida
    Cedric Hunter


    Matsuzaka hasn't passed his physical yet, so once that's done he'll be on the official list as well.
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    Default Re: 2012-2013 Indians Offseason Thread (Mark Reynolds signed, Francona hired)

    good news towards Cabrera

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    Antonetti on Cabrera: "All reports have been very favorable. If he's not in the best shape he's ever reported in, he's close." #Indians
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    2) Teddy Bridgewater
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    Browns QB wish list
    1) Blake Bortles
    2) Teddy Bridgewater
    3) Johnny Manziel
    4) Jimmy Garoppolo
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    Default Re: 2012-2013 Indians Offseason Thread (Mark Reynolds signed, Francona hired)

    I'd take Jose. He did fantastic work on Celebrity Apprentice.
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